Before I start, I would just like to state that I have not tested this build in the game yet, but I will build the character whether it is viable or not, just for fun.
Also, the stats in the planner that I have provided are completely unbuffed, and with no gear. I don't know what's going on, if it is supposed to be like that in the Character Planner, but some of the gear is just not on there. /shrug, So I guess I'll just type it out for yall.
The Chance Dragon is a 6 Paladin/2 Monk/12 Cleric. Lawful Good for the Monk levels. 32 Point Build.
The Saves on this build are actually very nice, I am happy with that part of the build, especially with evasion. Unbuffed and Ungeared The Chance Dragon is standing at 29 Fort, 22 Reflex, 22 Will Save, making for some very high end game numbers.
The Stats are a little stretched, due to needing 15 Dex for twf, 13 Str for Power Attack, Con for decent Hitpoints, and Max Cha. It is somewhat difficult. But end as so:Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02 DDO Character Planner Home Page The Chance Dragon Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (6 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 12 Cleric) Hit Points: 329 Spell Points: 645 BAB: 16\16\21\26\26 Fortitude: 29 Reflex: 22 Will: 22
Constitution -16 +7 Item +2 Ship +2 Rage Spell +2 Exceptional +4 Madstone +1 Litany = 34
Charisma -28 +7 Item +2 Ship +2 Exceptional +1 Litany = 40
The other stats are not as important, only for Pre-Reqs really. So they only have some +6 stat items and such. +2 tomes in Str and Dex as to spend less when rolling up the character.
As far as skills go, Maxed UMD and Balance, and nothing into the rest. UMD serves us for some items, arcane scrolls, etc. But not so much heal scrolls as you get those free with the 12 Cleric LevelsCode:Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 11 13 13 Dexterity 15 17 17 Constitution 13 15 16 Intelligence 8 8 8 Wisdom 8 8 8 Charisma 18 25 28 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7.
The feats that I used in this build were also very stretched, but I tried to make it work, having metas for the Radiant Servant Bursts and Auras. The feats used in this build are Maximise, Toughness, Empower Healing, Quicken, Empower, IC: Slashing, Monk PA, Monk twf, Itwf, and Gtwf.Code:Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 4 19.5 19.5 Bluff 4 9 9 Concentration 1 3 4 Diplomacy 4 9 9 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle 4 9 9 Heal -1 -1 1 Hide 2 3 3 Intimidate 4 9 9 Jump 0 1 1 Listen -1 -1 -1 Move Silently 2 3 3 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 -1 Search -1 -1 -1 Spot -1 -1 -1 Swim 0 1 1 Tumble n/a n/a n/a Use Magic Device 6 20.5 20.5
Enhancements that were used, are to provide little healing amp, not too much because like most things AP is also stretched, hehe.Code:Level 1 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead Spell (1): Bane Spell (1): Bless Spell (1): Cause Fear Spell (1): Command Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Doom Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds Spell (1): Nightshield Spell (1): Nimbus of Light Spell (1): Obscuring Mist Spell (1): Protection From Evil Spell (1): Remove Fear Spell (1): Shield of Faith Spell (1): Summon Monster I Level 2 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Level 3 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Spell (2): Aid Spell (2): Bear's Endurance Spell (2): Bull's Strength Spell (2): Close Wounds Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (2): Deific Vengance Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor Spell (2): Find Traps Spell (2): Hold Person Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds Spell (2): Lesser Restoration Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom Spell (2): Remove Paralysis Spell (2): Resist Energy Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest Spell (2): Soundburst Spell (2): Spawn Screen Spell (2): Summon Monster II Level 4 (Cleric) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 5 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (3): Bestow Curse Spell (3): Blindness Spell (3): Contagion Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds Spell (3): Dispel Magic Spell (3): Glyph of Warding Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Spell (3): Mass Aid Spell (3): Prayer Spell (3): Protection From Energy Spell (3): Remove Blindness Spell (3): Remove Curse Spell (3): Remove Disease Spell (3): Searing Light Spell (3): Summon Monster III Spell (3): Water Breathing Level 6 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Level 7 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (4): Chaos Hammer Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds Spell (4): Deathward Spell (4): Dismissal Spell (4): Divine Power Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (4): Holy Smite Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith Spell (4): Neutralize Poison Spell (4): Order's Wrath Spell (4): Panacea Spell (4): Poison Spell (4): Recitation Spell (4): Restoration Spell (4): Summon Monster IV Spell (4): Symbol of Flame Spell (4): Unholy Blight Level 8 (Cleric) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 9 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell Spell (5): Break Enchantment Spell (5): Divine Punishment Spell (5): Flame Strike Spell (5): Greater Command Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds Spell (5): Protection From Elements Spell (5): Raise Dead Spell (5): Slay Living Spell (5): Spell Resistance Spell (5): Stalwart Pact Spell (5): Summon Monster V Spell (5): Symbol of Pain Spell (5): True Seeing Level 10 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 11 (Cleric) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (6): Banishment Spell (6): Blade Barrier Spell (6): Cometfall Spell (6): Create Undead Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding Spell (6): Harm Spell (6): Heal Spell (6): Heroes Feast Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom Spell (6): Summon Monster VI Spell (6): Symbol of Fear Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion Spell (6): Undead to Death Spell (6): Word of Recall Level 12 (Cleric) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 13 (Monk) Skill: Balance (+3) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike Level 14 (Monk) Skill: Balance (+3) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Evasion Feat: (Automatic) Meditation Level 15 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil Level 16 (Paladin) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands Level 17 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity Level 18 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Spell (1): Lesser Restoration Spell (1): Lionheart Spell (1): Resistance Spell (1): Virtue Level 19 (Paladin) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Level 20 (Paladin) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease
Radiant Servant I and II, sadly you can not take HotD, which I was originally planning on.
Way of the Tourtise for +5 HP.
Paladin Smites, LoH, Divine Sacrifice, etc.
Well I'll leave it for you to read
The Endgame/Epic Gear Loadout goes like so:Code:Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Improved Heal I Enhancement: Improved Heal II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might II Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning III Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning IV Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning II
The Damage that you will realistically be doing with this build, is around 60 a swing,which is not a lot you might think, but then again you are a cleric really, and you are charisma based, so that might be alot. You also have the smites of a Paladin, Divine Might, Ravager Set ticking off, and you can turn undead with ease.Code:2x Epic Dynastic Falcatas (For the Cha Attack/Damage Mod).. 2d8+6.. 19-20/x3. Tharnes Goggles, for the TS and +5 Sneak Attack Damage. DT Armor/Robes, 10% Heal Amp, 20% Heal Amp, and a guard of choice. Epic Bracers of the Claw, Heavy Fort. Epic Gloves of the Claw, +6 Str, 30% Heal Amp, (+4 Damage with them both) Torc, Sp Regen, Spell Pen VI. Litany, +1 To Hit/Damage, +1 to all stats. Enevenomed Cloak, Con7, SFL, Resistance +5, (Slotted Toughness) Ring of the Ravager Any other ToD Ring Ravager Belt Conc Opp Gs + 45 Hp Item Gs Boots (Very Cheap, 1-2 Large Mats) Blindness/Disease Immunity, Fear/Poison Immunity, +100 SP and +3 cha skills (UMD)
Some other fun facts about the Chance Dragon: Your Lay on Hands will be extremely Potent, you will have a large, large sum of turn undead attempts, Quicken to spam bursts, you also have a healing over time effect on a some-what melee character which is kind of nice.
Now, I will say again, that I do not know if this toon will be viable, but I will try it out, Screenshots and all.
Will report back the results.
Results 1 to 8 of 8
Thread: The Chance Dragon.
-
08-03-2011, 04:22 PM #1Community Member
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Posts
- 176
The Chance Dragon.
-
08-06-2012, 11:46 AM #2Community Member
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Posts
- 176
Lol, I forgot about this. I still want to try it though, what do you guys think?
wiz·ard [wiz-erd]
Definition #6 from Dictionary.com: 6. British Slang . superb; excellent; wonderful: That's wizard!
Notice the slang doesn't say That's Sorcerer!
-
08-06-2012, 12:59 PM #3Build Constructionist
- Join Date
- Aug 2009
- Posts
- 19,465
Why max CHA? Sure, you have higher saves and more TUs for extra auras / bursts; but gimping your DPS to achieve that is a poor tradeoff, IMHO. Base CHA 14 + 2 tome is enough for Divine Might II, which as high as you can get with this lvl split; your saves will be plenty high and your DPS will be higher if you put more into STR.
Do you have HE? This is radically different from your build, but what I'd consider is: HE monk 6 / cleric 13 / ftr 1 w/pally dilly feat for bonus to saves using handwraps. You'll get two more feats, one which you'll use to add Dodge for Ninja for Shadow Fade (25% Incorp). Cleric 13 would get you the next bump in aura output and lvl 7 spells; I'm thinking MCSW would be the most useful. Feats are tricky, but there are 13 total: 7 base + 3 monk + 1 ftr + 2 epic; I'm thinking TWF x3, Emp, Emp Heal, Max, Quicken, Dodge, Toughness, Stunning Fist, IC:Blunt, PA or Precision, +1 more (maybe Imp Sunder or Stunning Blow).Semi-retired Build Engineer. Everything was better back in our day. Get off my lawn.
-
08-06-2012, 04:14 PM #4Community Member
- Join Date
- Oct 2009
- Posts
- 1,187
Interesting...I think a fair bit of build tweakage might be called for, I think some of the Paladin levels may detract from the build unless you are building for a tank. With 6 paladin levels, my first thought is Divine Righteousness, which might combo nicely with Divine Punishment for aggro-holding...albeit perhaps not as well as 6 more Cleric levels would do. However if one could somehow fit in Defender of Syberis and Intimidate, I think that would help justify the 6 paladin levels a bit more.
With only 12 Cleric levels, I am curious why the starting Charisma of 18...one might consider dropping this down a bit, or possibly bumping up to Cleric 15 to access Divine Might III. Even that only takes 18 Charisma including tomes and levelups.
Unfortunately the Radiant Servant stuff will be Cleric-level based rather than character-level based, in addition to the recent nerfing in update 14, I fear you won't get as much party-healing functionality as you may wish for.
Note that Madstone and activating radiant bursts/aura are incompatible, though LoH should work while raged to my knowledge. Divine Healing enhancement can be used while raged, but it's not viable at higher levels/costs too much AP anyway.
Some directions one might consider:
18 Cleric/2 Paladin (in preparation for the enhancements pass and the third tier Clerical prestige classes.)
15 Cleric/3 Monk/2 Paladin (extremely hotbar intensive, combining Clerical spells, light monk combos and paladin smites)
15 Cleric/3 Paladin/2 Monk (much simpler)
15 Cleric/5 Paladin (divine sacrifice)
13 Cleric/5 Paladin/2 Monk (similar to your posted build, except with slightly better party support buffs/healing: quickened mass pro elements are handy)
13 Cleric/6 Monk/1 Fighter (as unbongwah suggested)
12 Cleric/6 Monk/2 Paladin
If it's a Monk splash on a Cleric, investing into Wisdom for Stunning Fist can also be quite fun!
-
08-07-2012, 01:50 PM #5Community Member
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Posts
- 176
The Max Cha was just to do something different. The build was sort of based off of the Epic Dynastic Falcata's with Cha Attack and Damage Mod. So that I could be in the middle of it all, with somewhat good DPS with max cha, spamming bursts as ill have a million of them, and be able to UMD scroll some things, and giving all the melee health per second with my Radiance 2 aura. Plus access to the Divine Might enhancements.
Originally Posted by unbongwah
wiz·ard [wiz-erd]
Definition #6 from Dictionary.com: 6. British Slang . superb; excellent; wonderful: That's wizard!
Notice the slang doesn't say That's Sorcerer!
-
08-07-2012, 03:21 PM #6Community Member
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Posts
- 176
Reading this makes me think that you think CHA is the main stat for clerics. Wisdom is the main stat for clerics, cha only gives you more Turn Undead/Radiant Bursts/Auras. I have the pally levels for the saves, and for the extremely potent Lay on Hands. Originally Posted by JollySwagMan
wiz·ard [wiz-erd]
Definition #6 from Dictionary.com: 6. British Slang . superb; excellent; wonderful: That's wizard!
Notice the slang doesn't say That's Sorcerer!
-
08-10-2012, 06:26 AM #7Community Member
- Join Date
- Oct 2009
- Posts
- 1,187
Hmm...nope, I was just trying to be nice Originally Posted by liltova
I admit I don't post in the class forums much since they got all jumbled up, but I used to be a regular on the Cleric board
Let us know how you get along!
-
08-10-2012, 06:45 AM #8Community Member
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Posts
- 176
Yeah, I don't like how they put them together, but its whatevs lol. Originally Posted by JollySwagMan
Hmm...nope, I was just trying to be nice
I admit I don't post in the class forums much since they got all jumbled up, but I used to be a regular on the Cleric board
Let us know how you get along!
Yep, build will probably not be viable end game, or reliant on arty buffs to pass DR, but I'll post on it. lolwiz·ard [wiz-erd]
Definition #6 from Dictionary.com: 6. British Slang . superb; excellent; wonderful: That's wizard!
Notice the slang doesn't say That's Sorcerer!
Reply With Quote