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    Default Fine your loot is your loot, but...trying to sell, then looting to destroy?

    Lol ran a reavers a ranger pulled madstone boots.

    He then said they are up for sale 1red.

    No one said anything, everyone else rolled on the other stuff.

    So he looted it.

    He then told me after I had congradulated him that hes deleting the charactor he pulled the madstone boots on?

    Hmmm ok fair enough trying to get something for his pull, but when it became obvious that no one was going to buy his boots, couldnt he at least of put it up for roll since hes going to just destroy them anyway? I mean you know he might want to roll on stuff in the future on other toons, but he wont be rolling on any of the loot I put up for roll. Just because no one bought them didnt mean no one wanted or needed them, there could of been newer players on there, who couldnt afford the 1 red scale. I didnt want the boots on the toon I was on, so meh no loss for me, but for the other melees in the party im sure some of them might of wanted madstone boots.

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    Your logic is too much for me, sorry.


    But really, why even loot it then? It would of looked just as fantastical if it sat rotting in the chest, no?


    Is this some sort of jedi mind trick?


    *waves hand and stuff*

    "These aren't the boots you are looking for...."



    Sorry for your loss, my condolences. May they rest in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post
    Your logic is too much for me, sorry.


    But really, why even loot it then? It would of looked just as fantastical if it sat rotting in the chest, no?


    Is this some sort of jedi mind trick?


    *waves hand and stuff*

    "These aren't the boots you are looking for...."



    Sorry for your loss, my condolences. May they rest in peace.
    eh i didnt want the boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    eh i didnt want the boots.
    I hear ya man. Doesn't make much sense to me either, but what can ya do?


    Them pesky rangers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post

    Them pesky rangers....
    I mentioned the class, because when I saw that a ranger pulled them I thought he would be looting them, when he offered to sell I thought he already had one or more boots. Hey double madstone is nice.

    I didnt think he was going to loot on a toon that would be deleted

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post
    Your logic is too much for me, sorry.


    But really, why even loot it then? It would of looked just as fantastical if it sat rotting in the chest, no?


    Is this some sort of jedi mind trick?


    *waves hand and stuff*

    "These aren't the boots you are looking for...."



    Sorry for your loss, my condolences. May they rest in peace.
    I understand this post even less than most of Natural's or Weddingly's.

    Nat didn't mention anything about wanting the boots, just that the boot looter seemed to be being over-selfish that noone would get their loot without paying something rather than just giving them to the winning roll. Otherwise it's someone who's never got the concept of rolling for loot and assumed that as noone offered the required price, noone wanted them at all.

    I'd guess the latter from the OP but there are plenty of the former too.

    Either way it was a heck of a waste....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggss View Post
    I understand this post even less than most of Natural's or Weddingly's.
    Bleh, I need sleep.

    It just seem odd to me: why even bother looting it in the first place, if never going to use it? Its basically the same thing if he left it sitting in the chest right? Would that have been different/better/worse?

    Maybe that made more sense haha

    For me, I think its more of a waste of energy being frustrated with someone else just because they didn't loot up to my standards; but like I said thats just me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post
    Bleh, I need sleep.

    It just seem odd to me: why even bother looting it in the first place, if never going to use it? Its basically the same thing if he left it sitting in the chest right? Would that have been different/better/worse?

    Maybe that made more sense haha

    For me, I think its more of a waste of energy being frustrated with someone else just because they didn't loot up to my standards; but like I said thats just me.


    A tree in a forest, and a bird in the hand or something like that...
    well why leave it in the chest, or loot it, if your just going to destroy it, when its something other people might be able to use?

    Its sort of like throwing away food cause your not hungry right in front of starving people lol. Its pretty selfish, omg it would bee too much effort to just give it to them, so i will just put it down the incinerator, I mean they dont have any money on them to buy it, so its useless to me. .

    Yeah leave it in the chest, it would look good in there, so you can laugh at all the poor people who want madstone boots.

    So its a waste of energy? Why waste your energy to post and tell us its a waste of energy?
    anyway dont you need sleep?........

    sweet dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    well why leave it in the chest, or loot it, if your just going to destroy it, when its something other people might be able to use?

    Its sort of like throwing away food cause your not hungry right in front of starving people lol. Its pretty selfish, omg it would bee too much effort to just give it to them, so i will just put it down the incinerator, I mean they dont have any money on them to buy it, so its useless to me. .
    actually heath the origin of that comparison was here not in anto_capones post
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    Thanks for the neg rep haha

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    Did anyone try to barter or otherwise indicate they were interested in the boots?

    I would think that to be the key here.

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    I don't get the loot drama in this case.

    The guy announced that he wanted to sell the boots instead of having others roll. Fine. He announced it. No one wanted it. Hardly a loss. If someone had wanted the boots that badly he should have opened his mouth and put a bid. Everything has a price tag, either investment of time, money or something else.

    I would have been upset if he had put it on roll and then sold it (ignoring the rolls). Or if the one with the lucky roll traded it to someone else afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamabel View Post
    I don't get the loot drama in this case.

    The guy announced that he wanted to sell the boots instead of having others roll. Fine. He announced it. No one wanted it. Hardly a loss. If someone had wanted the boots that badly he should have opened his mouth and put a bid. Everything has a price tag, either investment of time, money or something else.

    I would have been upset if he had put it on roll and then sold it (ignoring the rolls). Or if the one with the lucky roll traded it to someone else afterwards.
    I think it "drama" enough that someone actually tryed to sell raidloot - enough at least to make a nice home on my ignore list.
    And it was stupid in addition ... who in any case who has red scales to give away doesnt have all the loot he ever need out of a raid like the reaver?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenay View Post
    I think it "drama" enough that someone actually tryed to sell raidloot - enough at least to make a nice home on my ignore list.
    And it was stupid in addition ... who in any case who has red scales to give away doesnt have all the loot he ever need out of a raid like the reaver?
    people who have all the loot they'd ever need out of reaver dont run reaver.

    people who don't have all the loot they'd ever need out of reaver run reaver. how many reds they have is a nonfactor.


    (edited to be more clear on what i meant)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenay View Post
    I think it "drama" enough that someone actually tryed to sell raidloot - enough at least to make a nice home on my ignore list.
    And it was stupid in addition ... who in any case who has red scales to give away doesnt have all the loot he ever need out of a raid like the reaver?
    I've heard plenty of people who haven't gotten Madstones after their 40th run. It's kinda brutal.

    That said, as far as loot selling - what if someone else really wants to buy your loot? Is it a bad move to sell it to them rather than putting it up for a roll? I've had that happen to me twice recently, and I figure it's not really that bad of a move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    well why leave it in the chest, or loot it, if your just going to destroy it, when its something other people might be able to use?

    Its sort of like throwing away food cause your not hungry right in front of starving people lol. Its pretty selfish, omg it would bee too much effort to just give it to them, so i will just put it down the incinerator, I mean they dont have any money on them to buy it, so its useless to me. .

    Yeah leave it in the chest, it would look good in there, so you can laugh at all the poor people who want madstone boots.

    So its a waste of energy? Why waste your energy to post and tell us its a waste of energy?
    anyway dont you need sleep?........

    sweet dreams.
    Yanno, I never disagreed with you; I just wonder what the point you are trying to make is. Are you now equating madstone boots with life and death (starving people)?

    Sure, what happened was pretty selfish, and something I would never do myself; but I wouldn't let it frustrate me.


    Take it easy man, and have a g1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post
    @NaturalHazard

    Yanno, I never disagreed with you; I just wonder what the point you are trying to make is. Are you now equating madstone boots with life and death (starving people)?

    Sure, what happened was pretty selfish, and something I would never do myself; but I wouldn't let it frustrate me.


    Take it easy man, and have a g1.
    nah thats a little extreme, starving people and life and death, but it doesnt frustrate me, just confuses me, I mean if i have something that im never going to use, and I cant get anything for it, and I think someone could use it, prob to great effect it would seem natural to me to just give it to them. Theres been cases where ive been too lazy to deal with the whole rolling thing lolz, and I have just stated in party chat leader giving these to you to put up for roll(or if i had to rush off to do something else, either the leader or someone I know in the party).. lol lazy I know.

    I guess my point is what you just stated, its pretty selfish is all. But would I be out of place not letting this person roll on anything I put up for roll in the future, cause thats what I think I will do.

    you have a good 1 too mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post
    Yanno, I never disagreed with you; I just wonder what the point you are trying to make is. Are you now equating madstone boots with life and death (starving people)?

    Sure, what happened was pretty selfish, and something I would never do myself; but I wouldn't let it frustrate me.


    Take it easy man, and have a g1.
    Wow really I keep getting neg repped for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto_capone View Post
    Wow really I keep getting neg repped for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by camels View Post
    If you think you don't deserve it, then report it.
    Thanks, but that just doesn't sound right to me. The little green blobs don't really matter to me, instead I just wonder what exactly I said/did that was wrong to deserve all the neg reps.

    Wasn't trying to be offensive to anyone at all in this thread. I thought being civil and disagreeing with someone would be ok.

    To those who neg repped me: Sorry if I came across as offensive, derogatory, or whatever. I hope no one is bent out of shape over anything I posted. I hope you have an awesome weekend!

    And you can neg rep this too if you'd like.

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