Saw something like this coming...

[Postumus]

In 3 years of playing, with the exception of guild runs, I could count the number of times Ive been passed pots on one hand. It really doesnt happen.

On Sarlona I see pots, and other items, passed quite frequently. In fact, I would say I could count one one hand the number of times I've noticed when a melee hasn't passed a pot to the divine or arcane in the party.

Weird.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

THIS.

However, if you have a bunch of idiots and new players, trust me, that mana gets used FAST. Especially if you are the only one buffing. I personally woul have stuck it out until the end, I have pots to drink. BUT: Mister "I bought my character and it's TRs from a plat farmer" Would have gotten an earful, then I would have told everyone I know about this guy. If you are TR'd WITH GS. No excuses.

I'd bet the healer was thinking the same thing I was, too. Even the worst players I have ever done the shroud with knew the basics.

Nothin like being OoM, with nine people dead....and scroll healing to victory!

[justagame]

How many years have people been whining about shroud? Go cry me a river and just run it again. For the OP to put up the thousandth "OMG look how stupid people are in shroud" post shows his own inexperience.

Well, you clearly don't know me, but in any case, I'm at a bit of a loss as to the purpose of that post.


For those that posted that the healer was lame to drop, I'm genuinely of 2 minds there. I felt the same way right afterwards, and yes, a person in a better frame of mind wouldn't have made everyone pay for the mistake of one.

On the other hand, I've been in that position before, I've been a healer (sometimes solo) in that occasional raid that just doesn't have it -- for example, have quaffed a bunch of potions in a multi-round shroud part 4 where the group clearly didn't have the dps, or quaffing potions to save a part 5 in a weak or uncooperative group that otherwise would have failed. At most, 1 person even bothers saying thank you for sticking it out, and only once have I ever gotten so much as a potion for it. Maybe he just had one too many of those experiences. He wasn't a poor healer, just perhaps a poor leader.

[Tabun]

I must agree. Shroud is where you meet the folks you want to avoid in endgame.

Well said ....

[Tabun]

Please please .... I can almost guarantee I have drank more mana pots then the rest of Argo combined ... I would have drank to complete then clicked the alter and not passed or looted any shards or better yet waited for him to die finished clicked alter and hit the part 3 portal and dropped the stone in the north 3by 3 .... if you can pass through a portal with a stone .... woulda totally been worth it ... you put up an lfm you make sure it works that's why the have the decline button ... healer / leader is a Missy and one to be ignored

[Tabun]

Missy means sissy ... stupid smart phone is hard for.me since I am not smart

[Tabun]

Oh yeah if the healer / leader is a friend of mine I take back what I posted ... NOT

[Drekisen]

Use a pot...HAHA......that's funny, if you have to use a Mnemonic for a normal Shroud run it's an /epic failure to begin with.

I would have left too unless I desperately wanted to finish crafting something.

[gerardIII]

Ever just feel that a quest is going to go sideways?

Yes.

Even before joining the group I experienced that feeling.

And the awful things that happened next proved me right.

[Erekose]

How many years have people been whining about shroud? Go cry me a river and just run it again. For the OP to put up the thousandth "OMG look how stupid people are in shroud" post shows his own inexperience.

Harsh, but fair.

/signed

[Tabun]

Use a pot...HAHA......that's funny, if you have to use a Mnemonic for a normal Shroud run it's an /epic failure to begin with.

I would have left too unless I desperately wanted to finish crafting something.

Cute text ... pretty much shows how awesome you are having to drink a pot has nothing to do with the cleric but how crappy the party was .. sometimes we have to take one for.the team if the lfm is up in my name I am on an important class ... cleric / caster ... I make sure it completes then mark the clowns and add em to friends list not just bail on part 5 like all the small and medium ingredient farmers do .....

[katz]

Ever just feel that a quest is going to go sideways?

been there... done that....

[zwiebelring]

I run in, grab water, then come back for more. Shard guy and others are looting the chest in the middle. Still 7-8 fountains to go, and they're looting? How has this guy TR'ed and run shroud enough to wield a Lit II GS greataxe, yet not know how to get into the middle, or that you need to run water?

2 reasons:

- didn't have the luck running in a Shroud hosted by AoK or other speed directed groups^^

- never paid for the content but was smart enough to collect money and just buy the needed ingredients out of the ah before buying Vale and was invited to a high lvl. guild with altars for crafting after running a few Shrouds and has been lucky on Shards

[knightgf]

If he didn't drop group anyways, and you guys somehow finished part 5, the shard guy would have hit the altar anyways and caused a premature completion. THAT would have ticked off those players who didn't want to complete. At least we denied him the chance to get 2 shards of supreme power. No shard for you!

[justplayingthegame]

[QUOTE=Aurora1979;3957860]In 3 years of playing, with the exception of guild runs, I could count the number of times Ive been passed pots on one hand. It really doesnt happen.

QUOTE]



ODD here in G-Land when I play one of several healers, I sometimes get pots given to me without asking or needing.


I tend to solo heal shrouds cuz I find it easier to saty on top of things and not expect someone else to do their job. BTW
I scroll heal and burst till the last named is down and have enough mana to heal through even low DPS pugs IN PT. 5

[EpiKagEMO]

Tip those casters that saved the party from wiping with sp pots you melees! not like you need it...
i heard of this system in another server, but only happend in the early ddo.

[Jiirix]

- dont pug if you cant cope with TOIs (The Occasional Idiots)
- squelch anoying players asap
- healer was at 1/2 half mana when Harry poped in.. WHAT was he doing with all that mana? Serious, one rounder in part 4? No reason to let all those people wait forever. Let a wiz, pala or sorc cast fire and a ranger or bard cast fom. Done and all in.
- letting the other 10 players down was lust lame. If he had complained about the pots he had to use afterwards he would have get plenty of them back anyway.

[Solmage]

- dont pug if you cant cope with TOIs (The Occasional Idiots)
- squelch anoying players asap
- healer was at 1/2 half mana when Harry poped in.. WHAT was he doing with all that mana? Serious, one rounder in part 4? No reason to let all those people wait forever. Let a wiz, pala or sorc cast fire and a ranger or bard cast fom. Done and all in.
- letting the other 10 players down was lust lame. If he had complained about the pots he had to use afterwards he would have get plenty of them back anyway.

- Don't be a TOI or tolerate TOIs if you want to be able to complete, the cleric may just drop on you, or the group leader may call for a reform of the party without you. They have a right to play without aggravation.

- If nobody else does it, who, exactly, should do it? Nobody? After all the only person who really cares is the cleric whose mana will be wasted having to compensate for the extra damage taken from lack of resists and loss of DPS to fom/early deaths.

- If he complained about it, based on my experience, he would have gotten an "aww, that's too bad", and MAYBE 1 or 2 pots from one player, who clearly expects the rest of the group to do the same, but of course, the rest of the group doesn't, so now you're 10 pots - 2 down. Like I said, would you join if I asked you for a 20k deposit to join the pug, and it all went ok, return it? What if instead it were for the full amount, 200k? You'd pay the deposit to join every pug? If so, hey I want to party with you.

[Vellrad]

[QUOTE=justplayingthegame;3959796]

In 3 years of playing, with the exception of guild runs, I could count the number of times Ive been passed pots on one hand. It really doesnt happen.

QUOTE]



ODD here in G-Land when I play one of several healers, I sometimes get pots given to me without asking or needing.


I tend to solo heal shrouds cuz I find it easier to saty on top of things and not expect someone else to do their job. BTW
I scroll heal and burst till the last named is down and have enough mana to heal through even low DPS pugs IN PT. 5

Stange, some clerics even declince taking pots from me!
(Well, I kinda like it, they remember I can help them with resources, so me=good, but it won't cost me pots )

[Zildoran]

Sounds like a Shroud run I had last week. We still completed after some clown did the same thing after multiple people said to save earth. One healer had 3/4 sp and other had a little less than 1/2. I did offer a pot, and suggested the idiot who killed earth do so, but the healer said he didn't need any.