Just finished making the build for my next TR. 36 favored soul, past lives sorc and wiz. Taking wiz past life at lvl 3. Healing spec, but should be able to bring pain w/ offensive spells, and a longsword and shield. In the prcess of making a GS longsword, but i haven't decided whether pos-light-light, or light-pos-light. Both would make Lit. 2, but i was thinking for of the first one. That would give me Holy Shock Burst Shock Blast. According to the planner i use (http://perfectweb.org/ddo/crafting/base_crafting.php) both would make lit 2. Should hit 477 hp without +6 con item, and 2778 sp, with archmagi and a shroud item. Here's the build, please post feedback. First time posting a build on the forums, so i'm hoping it doesn't come out all crapy
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Human 36 Pt. build FvS 20 Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Favored Soul) Hit Points: 372 Spell Points: 2203 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 11 Will: 15 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 12 12 12 Dexterity 8 8 8 Constitution 18 19 20 Intelligence 8 8 8 Wisdom 14 15 16 Charisma 16 19 24 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance -1 -1 -1 Bluff 3 7 7 Concentration 8 26 28 Diplomacy 3 8 10 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle 3 7 7 Heal 2 3 5 Hide -1 -1 -1 Intimidate 3 7 7 Jump 1 1 2 Listen 2 3 3 Move Silently -1 -1 -1 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 -1 Search -1 -1 -1 Spot 2 3 3 Swim 1 1 1 Tumble n/a 1 1 Use Magic Device 5 17 17 {\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Minos Legens \par Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II \par Xachosian Eardweller \par Litany of the Dead \par Pale Lavender Ioun Stone \par Banner Cloak \par Feather Falling Boots of Balance \par Armored Bracers \par Dragontouched Vestments \par Dragontouched Shroud \par Aegis of Flame \par Dalorent's Seal \par Light and Darkness (Upgraded) \par Rahl's Might (Force) \par Staff of the Petitioner \par \par Level 1 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+4) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Nightshield Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I Level 2 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Spell (1): Nimbus of Light Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Level 3 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host Spell (1): Remove Fear Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I Level 4 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Tumble (+1) Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Enhancement: Improved Concentration II Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 5 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Spell (2): Resist Energy Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II Level 6 (Favored Soul) Skill: Tumble (+1) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II Level 7 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (2): Deific Vengance Spell (3): Mass Aid Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I Level 8 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty Level 9 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Spell (2): Soundburst Spell (3): Searing Light Spell (4): Unholy Blight Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II Level 10 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold Spell (5): Raise Dead Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III Level 11 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Spell (4): Divine Power Spell (5): Divine Punishment Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III Level 12 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: WIS Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host Spell (6): Heal Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II Level 13 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (5): Stalwart Pact Spell (6): Blade Barrier Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I Level 14 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III Level 15 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity Spell (6): Cometfall Spell (7): Resurrection Spell (5): True Seeing Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III Level 16 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CON Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II Level 17 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements Spell (8): Mass Death Ward Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV Level 18 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Spell (9): Mass Heal Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV Level 19 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (9): True Resurrection Spell (8): Holy Aura Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV Level 20 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver Spell (9): Implosion Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization II
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Thread: Favored Soul 36 pt. build
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07-26-2011, 11:45 AM #1Community Member
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Favored Soul 36 pt. build
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07-26-2011, 11:49 AM #2Founder
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Way, way, way too much charisma, too little wisdom.
Wisdom should either be basically topped out (starting 16-18, all level-ups into it), or ignored (10).
Charisma gives extremely meager benefits. The difference between a starting 12 and a starting 16 at level 20 is 58 SP. Not worth 6 build points that could be far more profitably spent elsewhere. Really ANY other attribute would be better to boost with those points. And as for putting level up points into it. Ugh. You're not a sorcerer.
As for your GS weapon, if you want to be serious about hitting stuff with it, then you either need to make a mineral weapon for the "free" keen, or you want to drop one of your feats (I'd suggest Mental Toughness), and take Improved Critical.Last edited by Matuse; 07-26-2011 at 11:52 AM.
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07-26-2011, 11:53 AM #3Community Member
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Agreed. Decided what you want to do with this guy. If caster is the answer, then I would raise wisdom upto 18. This could be done by bring str to 10, Con to 16 and/or cha down to 12. Some combination of these. If you want to make the GS long sword, and use that as your main DPS, dump wis (10) and bring cha/Con down such that str is 16 or so.
Jack of all trades makes for a weaker FvS imo
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07-26-2011, 12:03 PM #4Community Member
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Re-Abilty spec
just re-spec'ed it, and did 16 WIS 14 CHA. Here is the fixed build. Should hit 2695 SP, and WIS is up to 20 now.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Human 36 Pt. build FvS 20 Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Favored Soul) Hit Points: 372 Spell Points: 2145 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 11 Will: 17 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 12 12 12 Dexterity 8 8 8 Constitution 18 19 20 Intelligence 8 8 8 Wisdom 16 19 20 Charisma 14 15 20 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance -1 -1 -1 Bluff 2 5 5 Concentration 8 26 28 Diplomacy 2 6 8 Disable Device n/a n/a n/a Haggle 2 5 5 Heal 3 5 7 Hide -1 -1 -1 Intimidate 2 5 5 Jump 1 1 2 Listen 3 5 5 Move Silently -1 -1 -1 Open Lock n/a n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 -1 Search -1 -1 -1 Spot 3 5 5 Swim 1 1 1 Tumble n/a 1 1 Use Magic Device 4 15 15 {\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Minos Legens \par Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II \par Xachosian Eardweller \par Litany of the Dead \par Pale Lavender Ioun Stone \par Banner Cloak \par Feather Falling Boots of Balance \par Armored Bracers \par Dragontouched Vestments \par Dragontouched Shroud \par Aegis of Flame \par Dalorent's Seal \par Light and Darkness (Upgraded) \par Rahl's Might (Force) \par Staff of the Petitioner \par \par Level 1 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+4) Skill: Use Magic Device (+2) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Spell (1): Divine Favor Spell (1): Nightshield Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I Level 2 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Trip Spell (1): Nimbus of Light Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Level 3 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate Feat: (Automatic) Child of the Sovereign Host Spell (1): Remove Fear Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I Level 4 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CHA Skill: Tumble (+1) Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Enhancement: Improved Concentration II Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 5 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Spell (2): Resist Energy Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II Level 6 (Favored Soul) Skill: Tumble (+1) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II Level 7 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (2): Deific Vengance Spell (3): Mass Aid Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I Level 8 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: WIS Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty Level 9 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+2) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Spell (2): Soundburst Spell (3): Searing Light Spell (4): Unholy Blight Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II Level 10 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold Spell (5): Raise Dead Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III Level 11 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Spell (4): Divine Power Spell (5): Divine Punishment Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III Level 12 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: WIS Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Feat: (Automatic) Beloved of the Sovereign Host Spell (6): Heal Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II Level 13 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Spell (5): Stalwart Pact Spell (6): Blade Barrier Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I Level 14 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III Level 15 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity Spell (6): Cometfall Spell (7): Resurrection Spell (5): True Seeing Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III Level 16 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: CON Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II Level 17 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Automatic) Leap Of Faith Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements Spell (8): Mass Death Ward Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV Level 18 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Spell (9): Mass Heal Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV Level 19 (Favored Soul) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Spell (9): True Resurrection Spell (8): Holy Aura Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV Level 20 (Favored Soul) Ability Raise: WIS Skill: Diplomacy (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver Spell (9): Implosion Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization II
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07-26-2011, 12:05 PM #5Community Member
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Will want to hit things, but i dont want to dump all of my other stats. Already have a +6 STR item, and am planning on getting a +2 tome, if not +3. Should hit about 20 STR. Originally Posted by Cam_Neely
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07-26-2011, 12:36 PM #6Community Member
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This is a slight improvement, but my non-Tr evoker FvS will run circles around this guy DC wise, and my WF FvS will destroy this build in melee...I don't understand what you're going for here, as people before this have said, you either MAX wisdom (18 BASE, ALL LEVEL UPS) or DUMP wisdom (8 BASE, NO LEVEL UPS). Originally Posted by GeoBob
I don't understand why you would put level up points into CON/CHA, all you're doing is spreading yourself out and making yourself weaker.
Mental Toughness? On a double TR FvS? You're kidding right? Right?
My nonTR evoker FvS has 2854 spell points, with a 9 BASE charisma and no mental toughness...which is more than you show w/ a high charisma score + mt.
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07-26-2011, 12:41 PM #7Community Member
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The point for the one lvl up in CON is for and equal number stat, otherwise it is an odd number, and wasted, and if not mental tough, what would you take? Matuse said improved critical, but what would you take? Originally Posted by mute_mayhem
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07-26-2011, 12:44 PM #8Community Member
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Use your human adaptability enhancements for things like this. It's really a much cheaper and flexible way of doing it, you'll be hitting yourself on the head if you get a +3 tome if you spend a point in con on level up, whereas enhancements can be reset for free at 20... Originally Posted by GeoBob
Edit: Oh and, improved critical is silly good.Last edited by Truga; 07-26-2011 at 12:50 PM.
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07-26-2011, 12:51 PM #9Community Member
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Melee max str lvls into str
Caster max wis lvls into wis
Cha no higher than 14. Only need 19 to cast highest lvl.
Only need 16 con.
36 point evoker I would go
Str 12
Dex8
Con 16
Int 8
Wis 18
Cha 14
With 2 cha tome drop it to 12 raise int for more skill points or str for better to hit.
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07-26-2011, 12:54 PM #10Community Member
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Ok, so i will be working around with my enhancements, and feats. What would you say for a starting CHA at lvl 1? Planning on dumping WIS to base i suppose, and maybe getting rid of mental tough...just need to figure out what to take in its stead, and what CHA should be at.
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07-26-2011, 12:57 PM #11Community Member
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Feats
Empower healing
Empower
Maximize
Extend
Toughness
Heighten
Quicken is good for when in melee
Imp crit slash is also good for melee
If str is high enough maybe power attack
It all depends on if you will be more melee or casting.
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07-26-2011, 12:57 PM #12Community Member
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Not very familiar with FvS terms..would evoker be a healer as well? Or just a DPS/Offensive caster..planing on being a main healer, and possibly DPS/Offensive caster. I know in wizard/sorcerer terms evoker means pure DPS caster, instead of crowd control, or in a FvS case healer Originally Posted by JohnnyDangerously
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Will be mainly casting/healing, but i want to at least be able to do 30 points of damage per hit with a longsword. Quicken would also be nice when not in melee though, because it lets you get those long spells like mass heal out a lot faster in times like shroud. Originally Posted by JohnnyDangerously
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07-26-2011, 12:59 PM #14Community Member
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Imo Empower healing feat is meh, also I would replace empower healing with maximize feat and empower is handy if u can take before or at lvl15.
Ability raise every 4 lvls must be Wisdom. Try to put points in UMD skill at every lvl and at lvl 6 u put points in tumble that u can do it at lvl1. Mental toughness may be handy while leveling up but i suggest you to swap it for heighten or something when u are properly geared(gs con opp +150sp item).
Overall your build donot seem to be a full fledged Dashing Evoker(missing spell focus feats and a few enhancements) but works just fine.Last edited by wootvenu; 07-26-2011 at 01:01 PM.
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I have the GS 150 sp item, but instead of con op item, i use the torc, unles you think it would be better off being on a diff slot or have a second one. Originally Posted by wootvenu
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If i were to dump mental tough, i would probably swap feats around and take quicken at lvl 9, and imp crit slash at 12, because you need a BaB of 8 inorder to get it, and i would get that at lvl 11.
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Evoker will be a very good healer(main healing) but dps- ok while leveling but at high levels dps of an evoker is meh. Originally Posted by GeoBob
Imo Fvs can be build best as Evoker +healer or Dps + Healer but cannot do it all evoker + dps+ main healing(i mean best at all three).
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With S&B, lowish strength and no power attack, you won't put much hurt in melee. It's not a problem you just might not want to spend a lot of shroud ingredients on it.
Don't spread attribute increases around. If you want to focus on casting, put them all in wisdom for higher DCs.
Which feats to take instead of MT? For a caster you might want Heighten Spell, (Greater) Spell Penetration, (Greater) Spell Focus Necromancy/Evocation, ...
All IMHO
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Ive been tossing aroun the idea of doing heighten, but havent been fully decided. As a caster i've seen how nice it can be (especialy with web and hold monster). And as a healer i suppose it could nice with the ocasional Blade Barrier or Comet Fall..(if it even helps there) I have the defiac diadem, so that would be heighten=no sp. and then spell focus ive been thinking of as well, i just dont have room for greater so thats why i didnt take it. Originally Posted by Bart_D
With S&B, lowish strength and no power attack, you won't put much hurt in melee. It's not a problem you just might not want to spend a lot of shroud ingredients on it.
Don't spread attribute increases around. If you want to focus on casting, put them all in wisdom for higher DCs.
Which feats to take instead of MT? For a caster you might want Heighten Spell, (Greater) Spell Penetration, (Greater) Spell Focus Necromancy/Evocation, ...
All IMHO
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i'm not an expert, but i'd take off empower healing to make room for empower, and take extend earlier (no actual need of extended spells at lvl 18 when are already around 20 mins) an quicken later (quicken is actually useful for mass-heals, so it's useful around lvl 18-20). heighten spells will boost your implosion dc up, making it more friendly with epics in which u can do more then an healerbot and also spell pen and evocation focus can be handy
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