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    Magical Training is only acquired once. Also, you forgot to subtract 5% from the bonus sp for items due to the 1 bard level (18 Sorc + 1 FvS = 19/20 levels that give double, so 95% instead of 100% bonus).

    I was doing my calculations off of the +23 (in-quest) modifier, since I was only interested in the theoretical maximum, not the quasi-sustainable maximum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotSomeQuestions View Post
    Magical Training is only acquired once. Also, you forgot to subtract 5% from the bonus sp for items due to the 1 bard level (18 Sorc + 1 FvS = 19/20 levels that give double, so 95% instead of 100% bonus).

    I was doing my calculations off of the +23 (in-quest) modifier, since I was only interested in the theoretical maximum, not the quasi-sustainable maximum.
    Edited numbers to show the bonus sp deduction.
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    I just saw all this guys!... it's sweet, ima get an archmagi Item, not the wiz enhance line. ... I'm a sorce, plan to cap this stuff way out, i already got ELements SP on my Dragon Touched Shroud... +200 SP, And Glacial Bracers, +400, and then +3 or +4 tome, then GS Elements SP 150, and 100... Then a GS weapon, +3 in one hand, +1 in the other ... Thanks for the help guys

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    I meant i'm going to get all this stuff, i've only gotten DT SP so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemeir View Post
    I just saw all this guys!... it's sweet, ima get an archmagi Item, not the wiz enhance line. ... I'm a sorce, plan to cap this stuff way out, i already got ELements SP on my Dragon Touched Shroud... +200 SP, And Glacial Bracers, +400, and then +3 or +4 tome, then GS Elements SP 150, and 100... Then a GS weapon, +3 in one hand, +1 in the other ... Thanks for the help guys
    The DT and shroud elemental SP do not stack only different values stack. tier 2 GS is 50 tier 3 is 100. DT is also 50 and 100 , you can only get 1 of each. The SP are doubled for sorcs though. You can only do +1 and +2 exceptional for a total of +3, you will want to do this on the same weapon or get a ToD ring instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemeir View Post
    I wanna get record spell points for a halfling, my plan is to have Archmagi to start... Do Elemental Spell points stack if they're different amounts like Exceptional Char+1 and Char +2 = over all +3?
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    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=241400

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    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ht=pale+master

    those two links show the max sp for sorc and wiz. the sorc link also shows fvs and bard comparisons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordax View Post
    The DT and shroud elemental SP do not stack only different values stack. tier 2 GS is 50 tier 3 is 100. DT is also 50 and 100 , you can only get 1 of each. The SP are doubled for sorcs though. You can only do +1 and +2 exceptional for a total of +3, you will want to do this on the same weapon or get a ToD ring instead.

    Vordax
    Okay, i got the 100 ELements SP on the sov rune, i should be okay to get 150sp off a GS item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonTroy View Post
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=241400

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    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ht=pale+master

    those two links show the max sp for sorc and wiz. the sorc link also shows fvs and bard comparisons
    As seen on the previous page, and as he himself comments, the sorcerer thread is out of date. Several things are not taken into effect in that thread, and others are simply totally omitted.


    And if you already have 100 SP off the Dragontouched, you can't get 150 off Greensteel-only 50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elemeir View Post
    Okay, i got the 100 ELements SP on the sov rune, i should be okay to get 150sp off a GS item.
    The GS isn't 150, the GS is 100 + 50, the 100 part will not stack with the sovereign rune.

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    So your saying a completionist and 3 Sorc past lives is viable? What kind of xp auger are you? Can I just use my Birthday event trinket with stacking SP and be done with it?

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    1/1/18 splash.

    fvs / bard / soc.
    add an ton of past live feats =

    3X +20 soc
    3X +20 fvs

    past life soc is another mental toughnes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordax View Post
    The GS isn't 150, the GS is 100 + 50, the 100 part will not stack with the sovereign rune.

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    So, they won't both go together and make 150 on the GS Gloves?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemeir View Post
    So, they won't both go together and make 150 on the GS Gloves?.
    Its actually 2 effects on the gloves, one for 50 and one for 100. The 100 will not stack with the 100 from DT sovereign rune. The 50 will not stack with the 50 from DT tempest rune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordax View Post
    Its actually 2 effects on the gloves, one for 50 and one for 100. The 100 will not stack with the 100 from DT sovereign rune. The 50 will not stack with the 50 from DT tempest rune.

    Vordax
    Ooooh, lol, i was gunna use up so many ings and then waste them if you hadn't just said that... O_o thanks!

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    If you get to splash Bard, then you might as well just go spellsinger 20 and count each song you have available as around 210 spell points.

    Of course, then if you have the cloak you can just round it off to infinite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raithe View Post
    If you get to splash Bard, then you might as well just go spellsinger 20 and count each song you have available as around 210 spell points.

    Of course, then if you have the cloak you can just round it off to infinite.
    I don't wanna splash into any thing, most spell points for Pure Halfling Sorce ... I wanna 2 man Epics with my brother, and he has a SP prob, he's a wf wizard/rogue... ( monk is gunna replace the rogue when he LR's soon, and that's gunna hit the over all SP pool even more) So, in order to 2 man epics, i'll need more Spell Points and that's what i'm aiming at guys


    Breaking a record is just another Big plus lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elemeir View Post
    I don't wanna splash into any thing, most spell points for Pure Halfling Sorce ... I wanna 2 man Epics with my brother, and he has a SP prob, he's a wf wizard/rogue... ( monk is gunna replace the rogue when he LR's soon, and that's gunna hit the over all SP pool even more) So, in order to 2 man epics, i'll need more Spell Points and that's what i'm aiming at guys


    Breaking a record is just another Big plus lol...
    im his bro. its true i have a sp prob. with only 1700 or less after my lr. ill have a good 700+ hp or so thro. and 36con/ 34int. but my sps last longer i never use max only for boss fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pape_27 View Post
    thanks for the confirmation.

    so theoretical static max sp for a tr'ed sorc would be something like this then?

    20 base: 1650 (number from wiki)
    magical training: 80
    max cha: 435 (40 cha) (number from wiki)
    mental toughness: 105
    Imp Ment toughness: 105
    energy/dragonblood iv: 150
    arch magi: 400
    gs elemental: 300
    large augment: 160
    3 sorc/3 fvs past lives: 120

    total sp pool: 3,505

    am I missing anything?
    Try this if one of the other posts didn't already cover it....


    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=241400
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironforge_Clan View Post
    Try this if one of the other posts didn't already cover it....


    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=241400
    Totally off the mark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post

    CHA Score:

    20 Drow Base
    5 Level
    3 Enhancement
    4 tome
    2 Feat (Completionist)
    7 item
    3 Exceptional
    1 Profane
    2 Guild Ship
    2 Yugo
    49 Total- 19 modifier Step-In

    3 Profane
    2 House D Pot. <- if this is 3 it doesn't matter, as it gives 57, which is odd.
    2 Store Pot

    56 Total- 23 Modifier buffed

    1650 base SP
    551 CHA Score
    80 Magical Training
    220 Mental Toughness/Improved " " " "
    120 Past Lives
    105 Sorcerer Past Life Feat
    150 Enhancements
    400 Archmagi
    300 SP Greensteel Item
    100 Cove Trinket
    20 Korthos Set Bonus
    160 Large Guild Crystal Augment
    3,856 Maximum Starting Spellpoints

    145 Buffed CHA score
    3,972 MAXIMUM SP CAP
    Already calculated-and this is max without splashes (which are worth it, as the 2 spell levels lost are more than made up for by the 300-400 SP you GAIN (18Sorc/1Favored Soul/1Bard gives totals of 4,198 entering quest and 4,386 attainable mid-quest) by splashing) but splashing can go HIGHER.
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