expecting healing of party before quest?

[qes]

Is it right to expect cleric types to heal up party that gets damaged before quest? Especially when the quest has only one shrine in it!

I can understand if party (party that the cleric type has been with) is and has been working slayers before the quest to expect healing, that is fine.

[DoctorWhofan]

Is it right to expect cleric types to heal up party that gets damaged before quest? Especially when the quest has only one shrine in it!

I can understand if party (party that the cleric type has been with) is and has been working slayers before the quest to expect healing, that is fine.

No.

I won't. I'll remind them to heal up before loading in. If they don't not my problem.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I think you shouldn't say a word to them...but then don't heal them until they take additional damage! Preferably a lot of additional damage...and watch them sweat.

[MeliCat]

No. But maybe if they are newer they haven't worked out that buying and eating food in a tavern heals up your hp (and sp) faster so you could mention something to them? On quests where you might be conserving your sp to heal/damage/CC then party members showing up half dead is a little annoying - in a slayer area you clear from the nearby shrine to the quest entrance so that party can jump in with all clickies/sp/hp ready to go.

Exceptions are things like the Shroud where people might use a death taxi (bind to the Spirit Binder in Meridia and then just /death to get there fast) and be told to just run and jump in part 1 as fast as possible so that people can get started - and they'll get tossed a heal then. But you don't need to use a lot of sp on a healer in part 1 of the shroud.

[DoctorWhofan]

No. But maybe if they are newer they haven't worked out that buying and eating food in a tavern heals up your hp (and sp) faster so you could mention something to them? On quests where you might be conserving your sp to heal/damage/CC then party members showing up half dead is a little annoying - in a slayer area you clear from the nearby shrine to the quest entrance so that party can jump in with all clickies/sp/hp ready to go.

Exceptions are things like the Shroud where people might use a death taxi (bind to the Spirit Binder in Meridia and then just /death to get there fast) and be told to just run and jump in part 1 as fast as possible so that people can get started - and they'll get tossed a heal then. But you don't need to use a lot of sp on a healer in part 1 of the shroud.

Agreed on the Shroud. One Empowered/max heal wil get most guys up and running.

[Tirisha]

It depends on the healer. If I was healing I'd rather they jumped in for a quick heal spell instead of waiting in a tavern to slowly (with food) regen hp.

[issiana]

i dont see the issue on my cleric.

all i need do is pop a aura and person gets healed, no cost to me as that said aura is regened in 2 mins time.


not worth the hassle/grief to tell them to heal up. they'll get the hint when my aura is unenhanced and only ticking for minimal values. nothing like having a melee start thinking the cleric has poor heals
on the flipside this method works for me to as i get to see who has healing amp and who gets to die

[Letrii]

i dont see the issue on my cleric.

all i need do is pop a aura and person gets healed, no cost to me as that said aura is regened in 2 mins time.


not worth the hassle/grief to tell them to heal up. they'll get the hint when my aura is unenhanced and only ticking for minimal values. nothing like having a melee start thinking the cleric has poor heals
on the flipside this method works for me to as i get to see who has healing amp and who gets to die

I thought aura automatically got enhanced if you have tthe feat?

[issiana]

I thought aura automatically got enhanced if you have tthe feat?

empowered healing needs to be active... turn it off.

potenacy items/ardor 6 items need to be equiped - unequip them.

without those 2 basic addidtions your aura will sux. sure you have the life magic enhancements but they wont do much without the other 2.

if they are to silly to not come fully healed, then let them worry that your healing is poor by getting trickle feed a poor aura heal. if its a barb they *might* just be fully healed by the time the aura regens itself, heh.

[Khellendros13]

I don't really care...I throw heal scrolls from my fighter and pally just for fun so I am not really fussed about 50sp or 100pp.

[Hollyella]

I heal them, but usually with wands. A good cleric always keeps a healing wand on standby in case its required in an emergency, or to heal out of combat. The SP saving is immense, and well worth the small cost of a wand or two.

[morticianjohn]

Please do not waste my time healing in the tavern. Come to the quest and I'll top you off so we can do this thing.

[Letrii]

How good is aura witth devotion and empower healing?

[Claymorep]

It must not become an use, but I don't think is a great effort for a healer:
A heal scroll
A CCW wand
A fvs free clw
A cleric aura

The problem comes when a guy stay 5 minutes waiting a healer and considering it a must do when he can use a potion, use a heal scroll or something other. It's the same when a party member decide to don't stay with group without selfhealing capabilities... if he dies he HAVE TO selfbuffing after (resist 20 potions, gh clicky and so on...) and surely He have to wait all the rest of party is in safe position and THEN I'll use a scroll to raise him.

It's not the single case, but the general behaviour that it's not acceptable.

[Miahoo]

A cleric shouldn't have any problem - just turn the aura to heal them. By the time you finish buff and stuff, it'll regen by itself.

[TheDearLeader]

Is this some sort of common issue?

The only time I've seen someone come into a quest without being at full health is Shroud, when they've taken the Soul Train to get to Meridia, and it's like a Barb with 700 standing HP or something. Of course, being that Shroud Part 1 is a Snoozefest, people run them in, and Cleric hjeals them.

So.. where else does this commonly become a problem?

[justhavinfun]

I don't think this is a common problem but I have seen it before. Player decides to run some slayers or solo a quest while waiting for a LFM to pop up that they want to do. LFM pops up and player sees a cleric or FVS in it and decides to join. Recalls and runs straight to quest without doing any self healing.

I have to agree that a cleric with RS should not have any problems with this. Only time I see it as an issue is low level prior to RS or for a FVS. I buy my wands and scrolls as a backup for situations that may occur in the quest itself not to heal people while running around in public areas.

[Yvonnel]

well if im the only viable guy in that group able to fast and cheap heal up, im ok to throw heal/aura since i also want to profit from the quest - or why did i join those?^^

if theyre too stupid to stay alive later even with me hard working on it, then i might have been wrong when i helped and kept alive a bunch of better-be-deads

[Kershek]

I find that if I'm in the Harbor's Wayward Lobster after releasing, all I have to do is stand in the pvp landing area for a few seconds and someone invariably does mass heals that brings me to full pretty quickly. Still need to drink an sp potion, though.

[grayham]

If you work on the principle that you should take care of your own heals then anything else is a happy bonus. As I've said before, there is a worrying over-reliance on clerics ATM.