a little something i cooked up

[unholy1]

The premise behind this buils is simple -
slaying arrows (~500 DMG)on vorp
manyshot (if youve seen manyshot in action it doenst need an explanation)
frenzyIII ( +3x crits with death frenzy not to mention tons of con and stregnth bonuses i.e. HP and DMG) which makes 6x crits overall with what should be close to a 50+ stregnth - add barb dmg boost
while manyshot is cooling down you can THF w a GS or GA

imagine the DPS if you add in lightening strike longbow
there are many other niceities to add for additional dmg such as the windhowl bracers and TOD rings and the like

the premise remains simple manyshot-slayingarrows-frenzyIII-HIGH bowstregnth

there is one minor snafu in this plan and it is in order to be able to take Arcane Archer as a H-elf you will need one of a few pre-requisites all of which require you to be abel to cast spells which is impossible with onyl two levels of ranger with the exception of sorc past life feat- voila !! i give you the BRAINGER!!

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02
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BARANGER 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Female
(18 Barbarian \ 2 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 145 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 13
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             18                 24                   25
Dexterity            14                 17                   18
Constitution         13                 15                   17
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom               11                 13                   13
Charisma             10                 12                   12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               3                 13                   13
Bluff                 0                  1                    1
Concentration         2                  5                    5
Diplomacy             0                  1                    1
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                  1                    1
Heal                  4                 10                   10
Hide                  6                 10                   10
Intimidate            0                 24                   24
Jump                  8                 30                   30
Listen                0                  1                    1
Move Silently         2                  4                    4
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                0                  1                    1
Spot                  0                  1                    1
Swim                  8                 12                   12
Tumble                2.5                5                    5
Use Magic Device      2                 12                   12

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Prodigy
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Rage


Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge


Level 5 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Rage


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Indomitable Will


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows

[FrozenNova]

Nice try - but arcane prodigy doesn't give you spellpoints unless you have a blue bar to begin with.

[TheDearLeader]

I know someone already has a Bowbarian somewhere...could ask around, see if you can get their build.

[unholy1]

i currently have a 14barb/6ranger of this in the making that wil ahve all but the frenzy III basically which goes from 4x crits to 6x crits big difference - it worked in the character generator so i wasnt sure if it would in game - wasnt about to tra sorc jsut to find our but if anyone knows deffinitively id like to know - albeit even with the 14/6 build its still strong

[unholy1]

Nice try - but arcane prodigy doesn't give you spellpoints unless you have a blue bar to begin with.

another interesting point nova is that the prerequisite for AA h-elf does not say have spell points - just says arcane prodigy

[Battlehawke]

What if you did barb 18/wiz1/rgr1?

[unholy1]

What if you did barb 18/wiz1/rgr1?

well the ranger 2 is for the rapid shot which is a pre requisite for manyshot - so youd have to drop another feat to take rapid shot which throws the whole mojo off i think - im still not sure that taking teh arcane podigy wont satisfy the prerequisite for AA h-elf

[Promethie]

well the ranger 2 is for the rapid shot which is a pre requisite for manyshot - so youd have to drop another feat to take rapid shot which throws the whole mojo off i think - im still not sure that taking teh arcane podigy wont satisfy the prerequisite for AA h-elf

You will be able to get Arcane Archer, but since you won't have any spell points, you will be unable to use any of the arrow imbues.

[binnsr]

You will be able to get Arcane Archer, but since you won't have any spell points, you will be unable to use any of the arrow imbues.

True story.

You could go 17Barb (for tireless rage) / 2Rgr / 1 Wiz

Use the 1 Wiz for either your past life or extend.

You'd sacrifice Frenzy III, but not much else.

[Therrias]

well the ranger 2 is for the rapid shot which is a pre requisite for manyshot - so youd have to drop another feat to take rapid shot which throws the whole mojo off i think - im still not sure that taking teh arcane podigy wont satisfy the prerequisite for AA h-elf

18 barb/ 1 ranger/ 1 wiz works on feats. Wiz bonus feat can be used for mental toughness and satisfies the prereq with the added bonus of not having to TR your sorc.

I was thinking of how to make this work when i noticed my capped barb was critting for ~250 with a dwarven thrower.

[unholy1]

True story.

You could go 17Barb (for tireless rage) / 2Rgr / 1 Wiz

Use the 1 Wiz for either your past life or extend.

You'd sacrifice Frenzy III, but not much else.

the AA h-elf enhancement grants 20 SP - and the arcane past life grants +50 max - i would like to see it implemented

[unholy1]

the AA h-elf enhancement grants 20 SP - and the arcane past life grants +50 max - i would like to see it implemented

this is the one i currently have as a base

still has 4x crits manyshot and slaying arrows ( insert GS bow or any other DPS item)

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.09.02
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Baranger 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Female
(14 Barbarian \ 6 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 388
Spell Points: 190 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 13
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             17                    24
Dexterity            14                    19
Constitution         14                    18
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               11                    13
Charisma             10                    12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 4
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 4
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 4
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 4
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 4
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 4
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 8
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 8
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 8
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 8
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                     4
Bluff                 0                     1
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy             0                     1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     1
Heal                  0                     1
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            0                     1
Jump                  3                     7
Listen                0                     1
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                  0                     1
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot


Level 7 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Rage


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Rage


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Indomitable Will
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness III

[unholy1]

18 barb/ 1 ranger/ 1 wiz works on feats. Wiz bonus feat can be used for mental toughness and satisfies the prereq with the added bonus of not having to TR your sorc.

I was thinking of how to make this work when i noticed my capped barb was critting for ~250 with a dwarven thrower.

this i like losing the last lvl of barb makes a huge difference IMO difference between 4x and 6x crits

[Therrias]

this i like losing the last lvl of barb makes a huge difference IMO difference between 4x and 6x crits

Yes, it doesn't seem like it would be worth doing without 18 barb. 1 ranger and 1 wiz seems like the best way to get there to me. Though looking at the planner it seems like it would be a pain to level, as you wouldn't get AA until like level 15?

[unholy1]

Yes, it doesn't seem like it would be worth doing without 18 barb. 1 ranger and 1 wiz seems like the best way to get there to me. Though looking at the planner it seems like it would be a pain to level, as you wouldn't get AA until like level 15?

you can alwyas play around w how you take the feats necessary for the AA prerequisites - all you need for AA is Wf range and point blank shot - which you could have by lvl 3 if you wanted and deffiantely 6

[Luckness]

Race-based AA is minimum level 8. That is, if you qualify on the basis of being an elf or half-elf instead of by taking 6 levels of ranger, your character level must be 8, along with the other pre-requisites.

[unholy1]

Race-based AA is minimum level 8. That is, if you qualify on the basis of being an elf or half-elf instead of by taking 6 levels of ranger, your character level must be 8, along with the other pre-requisites.

well its a good thing i plan on being lvl 20 !! whew !!!

[krisz93]

What if it was 12 Barb/4 Fighter/4 Ranger? You have the blue bar, both Ram's Might and Weapon Spec (including Haste Boost and +1 Str) and still retain the increased crit multiplier.

[Luckness]

well its a good thing i plan on being lvl 20 !! whew !!!

I was replying to the poster who said that AA would come at level 15 and also to your post, making a point of clarification about when you can take the Arcane Archer prestige. There is nothing more to the comment than that.

[savingsoul]

I had a similar idea for a build which I called Bowrage.

It is an elf 2 Rogue/6 Ranger/12 Barbarian, with evasion, bow strength, rapid shot, twf, itwf, manyshot (which increases with bab rather than with ranger levels), spell points, ram's might, optional rogue skills, etc.

Regards,
savingsoul