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    Lightbulb Fill in Silver Flame Favor

    The vendor has nothing to sell till you hit 400 so why not fill in the almost useless favor levels of 100 and 250 with things like the Mark for Crafting, Silver Flame Heal Light, Moderate, Serious, and Critical, that have maxed Caster level. E.g. SFHMW potion would heal both WF and Fleshbags for 2d8+10, similar to how Lily extracts used to work. Could also add more expensive pots for things like Restore and FoM as well as Single charge exclusive raise dead Gems similar to the Planar Shard turn ins to the 400 favor mark to make it more appealing to buy these packs and to farm this favor.

    Right now there is very little reason to farm out SF pots, as they have many down sides and you have to do nearly every SF quest on Elite. Most of these quests are some of the most annoying ones in the game, whether because of quest design and mechanics (just so you know I love almost every quest in all 4 Necro Series) or because of bugs such as disappearing GS, making it nearly impossible to find a group to do Elites with. Giving tangible rewards along the way as well as rewards that are useful to all characters, would make both at level elites and the packs themselves much more appealing.

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    It's true that 75 and 150 favor that was marginally useful at Level cap 10 and 12 is pretty much worthless now.

    Most of the old favor rewards need to be reconsidered... (oh, and the new reason to get to 400 favor is it is required for crafting)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyrzaBladedancer View Post
    The vendor has nothing to sell till you hit 400 so why not fill in the almost useless favor levels of 100 and 250 with things like the Mark for Crafting, Silver Flame Heal Light, Moderate, Serious, and Critical, that have maxed Caster level. E.g. SFHMW potion would heal both WF and Fleshbags for 2d8+10, similar to how Lily extracts used to work. Could also add more expensive pots for things like Restore and FoM as well as Single charge exclusive raise dead Gems similar to the Planar Shard turn ins to the 400 favor mark to make it more appealing to buy these packs and to farm this favor.

    Right now there is very little reason to farm out SF pots, as they have many down sides and you have to do nearly every SF quest on Elite. Most of these quests are some of the most annoying ones in the game, whether because of quest design and mechanics (just so you know I love almost every quest in all 4 Necro Series) or because of bugs such as disappearing GS, making it nearly impossible to find a group to do Elites with. Giving tangible rewards along the way as well as rewards that are useful to all characters, would make both at level elites and the packs themselves much more appealing.

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    /signed Jyr, great suggestion! +1
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    /not signed.

    Mostly because I don't want anything to tempt me back into the Necro3 flagging quests ever again. BLECH.

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    Thumbs Up!!!!1111111111oneoneoneonelolller

    sounds good J, nice ideas
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    Quote Originally Posted by gloopygloop View Post
    /not signed.

    Mostly because I don't want anything to tempt me back into the Necro3 flagging quests ever again. BLECH.
    What? You don't like the rat maze?!?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordo View Post
    What? You don't like the rat maze?!?!?!?
    actually i dont mind that one.

    the two i hate are the ice area and the the area with all the oozes

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    Stupid necro 3 blight rot or whatever it was!!

    I'd forgotten how much of a pain those flagging quests were.

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    Many favor rewards need buffing. At the moment there are lots of favor rewards that are just junk.

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    /signed x100 if they will stock Restoration potions here!

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    While we're at it, it would be nice if 400 Free Agent favor didn't suck.
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    And some resto pots for undead plz.
    Maybe there will be a reason to do SF favor on wiz.
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    Almost any improvements to favour gets my support.

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    The way I see it, these rewards would fit in better for house J favor. Jorasco is the main healing power in the Ebberon universe, the Silver Flame is very much more of a zealous "smite the wicked group" (ever wonder where all the werewolves are in DDO?)

    Of course, SF favor is a lot harder to get, and there are barely any House J quests, so I'd be fine with it this way as well.

    So, /signed.
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    Another idea to toss out there is to sell guild augment crystals that allow you to bypass DR/Good or do additional bane/light damage.
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    I like this idea, open up the vendor at 150 favor and have him sell restore pots and the minor flame pots, then have him sell greater restore pots, the full flame pot, the mark, and a raise dead exclusive trinket 1 charge.

    Other suggestions for flame favor I would consider throwing in cure critical wounds potions, heal amp buff potions, and "Heal" potions that affect wf and fleshies equally with improved caster levels.
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    A lot of the favor rewards could stand to be reconsidered.
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    Think I'm gonna put a more inclusive post in the suggestions forum tomorrow, since pretty much everyone thinks this is a good idea. Maybe it will see some more action and we can come up with decent rewards for all levels of Favor for all Patrons. Unless of course someone else wants to do it first In which case I would pop in and throw in my 2cp

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    I have to agree with the sentiment that more Favor Rewards in general are a good thing. More Silver Flame favor especially, since it is almost completely P2P.

    I hate running Vol solo >.> All my clickies get hit by the 4 vamp guards at the end by Dispel Magic. Poof, there goes buffs. Bang, there I go on the ground, because I'm Commanded.

    And sadly, that's one of the easier quests.... -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyrzaBladedancer View Post
    Think I'm gonna put a more inclusive post in the suggestions forum tomorrow, since pretty much everyone thinks this is a good idea. Maybe it will see some more action and we can come up with decent rewards for all levels of Favor for all Patrons. Unless of course someone else wants to do it first In which case I would pop in and throw in my 2cp
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=329749 <- the most recent one.

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