Help With Evoker Build

[articwarrior]

I've been trying to build an evoker build FvS as a 2nd life (1st TR) Cleric. Hoping for halfling or even dwarf. This is what I've gotten so far:

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Level 1 Lawful Neutral Halfling Male
(1 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 44
Spell Points: 230 
BAB: 0
Fortitude: 6
Reflex: 3
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 1)
Strength             14                    14
Dexterity            10                    10
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               14                    14
Charisma             15                    15

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 1)
Balance               0                     0
Bluff                 2                     2
Concentration         7                     7
Diplomacy             2                     2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     2
Heal                  2                     2
Hide                  0                     4
Intimidate            2                     2
Jump                  2                     4
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         0                     2
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                  2                     2
Swim                  2                     2
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I

[thenalim]

Im not trying to be mean in any way but did you paste the right thing?
With 14 wis your dc will be so poor you might just ignore any dc based spells.

Some more constructive things:
Max Wis.
Cha is more of a taste issue, are you afraid of being disjuncted and not being able to cast? If not you can get away with rather low Cha.
Con 14 or 16 depending on how you planned out ur charisma.
rest on str or int. (looks like you prefer str so put it there).

Dont see why you'd go with halfling or dwarf on a evoker, human is the obvious choice as they can take wis enh. and they get human heal amp wich has great synergy with the free cures from sovereign host capstone.


edit: or did I roll a 1 on the sarcasmcheck?

[articwarrior]

Im not trying to be mean in any way but did you paste the right thing?
With 14 wis your dc will be so poor you might just ignore any dc based spells.

Some more constructive things:
Max Wis.
Cha is more of a taste issue, are you afraid of being disjuncted and not being able to cast? If not you can get away with rather low Cha.
Con 14 or 16 depending on how you planned out ur charisma.
rest on str or int. (looks like you prefer str so put it there).

Dont see why you'd go with halfling or dwarf on a evoker, human is the obvious choice as they can take wis enh. and they get human heal amp wich has great synergy with the free cures from sovereign host capstone.


edit: or did I roll a 1 on the sarcasmcheck?

no, just a first timer with FvS, not great with their builds, but manage to make great dps builds which would explain why

I'll try to fix the build and repost

[articwarrior]

ok, updated, lemme know what you think:

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Level 15 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(2 Monk \ 13 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 306
Spell Points: 1238 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 11
Will: 18

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 15)
Strength             10                    12
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               18                    24
Charisma             14                    18

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 15)
Balance               1                    14.5
Bluff                 2                     4
Concentration         7                    24
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                  4                     7
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            2                     4
Jump                  0                     8
Listen                4                     7
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  4                     7
Swim                  0                     1
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Human Bonus) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting II


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III

edit: edited to fit in empower for imp mental toughness

[thenalim]

Looks much better, stats seem reasonable.

Here it looks like you tried to go for survivability trough splashing monk and grabbing several tougness feats. On a caster fvs that is absolutely doable but for my taste you loose much more than you gain.

I would definitely stay pure for capstone and dr10/silver
Capstone cure will heal you for 125-350 on a human heal amp build(without hard to aquire gear such as claw set) and as its free metas on it you can keep quicken on to get it uninteruptable.

1 tougness feat is enough to get your hp to reasonable levels endgame (close to 500 with GS and medium guildslot hp).
You will definitely want empower. You do not need any mental toughness feats(you can get around 3k sp anyhow). If you can fit it in take evocation focus too for better BB and implosion.

[articwarrior]

Looks much better, stats seem reasonable.

Here it looks like you tried to go for survivability trough splashing monk and grabbing several tougness feats. On a caster fvs that is absolutely doable but for my taste you loose much more than you gain.

I would definitely stay pure for capstone and dr10/silver
Capstone cure will heal you for 125-350 on a human heal amp build(without hard to aquire gear such as claw set) and as its free metas on it you can keep quicken on to get it uninteruptable.

1 tougness feat is enough to get your hp to reasonable levels endgame (close to 500 with GS and medium guildslot hp).
You will definitely want empower. You do not need any mental toughness feats(you can get around 3k sp anyhow). If you can fit it in take evocation focus too for better BB and implosion.

hmm, personally I'd prefer to stay monk, but what should I switch out for empower? thinking improved mental toughness. for evocation focus, I don't know, blade barrier is usually a hit and miss at high end anyhow and in my build the only 9th level spell I took was mass heal.

unfortunately I do not have very great gear as of yet, but am working towards my conc opp then hp item (this toon was my first so the GS is poor quality) as well as ToD rings which are gnawed and, telvi's/dragonmarked (same benefits)

[stainer]

Nuic,

I am running Barrock following Impaqts Evoker build. I am really happy with the results so far (Lvl 16). I think it would be a good place for you to start.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199266

[Crann]

I haven't found anything better than Impaqt's Evoker build for a Divine nuker type build. It was developed before the Angel of Vengeance Pre, but really suits it perfectly.

The read alone is worth it to get insight into how a Evoker should be built and played.

[stainer]

I haven't found anything better than Impaqt's Evoker build for a Divine nuker type build. It was developed before the Angel of Vengeance Pre, but really suits it perfectly.

The read alone is worth it to get insight into how a Evoker should be built and played.

He update the build and included the pre.

[TheDjinnFor]

Well, looks like what need be said has already been said.

[TDarkchylde]

Nuic,

I am running Barrock following Impaqts Evoker build. I am really happy with the results so far (Lvl 16). I think it would be a good place for you to start.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199266

I echo this. It's a great build to start from as far as caster Favored Souls go. Wouldn't be that hard to tweak it to get your monk levels, either.