40th Epic Raid Completion = Shards.

[eulogy098]

As I look in my bank and bags and realize that I have accumulated just over 340 Epic Raid Tokens (not even counting alts...) and still do not have a Shard for the ESOS, I can't help but feel that this suggestion needs to be posted yet again.

How many other players have needed nothing but a shard from an epic raid since the first month of the epic contents release? How fair does it feel?

It sucks.

After 40 EPIC completions the player should have a selection of Epic Shards in their quest reward list. or 50 completions, or 60 completions, or even 100 completions. I dont care how many it will take to get the reward list, but for crying out loud throw us a bone here.

[dragonmane]

I agree

[Grenada]

but for crying out loud throw us a bone here.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Bit_of_Bone

I swear someone's gonna get this as their 40th epic completion now.

[TheDearLeader]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Bit_of_Bone

I swear someone's gonna get this as their 40th epic completion now.

Better than some small hard rods.

[Robai]

This was discussed many times since it's so needed.
I'll repeat what I said here:

/signed

There is always a question: TR or farm more shards/seals/tomes?
Since there is no guarantee that you'll ever get needed shard then running Epic raids isn't that encouraging (no hope for shards).

Example:
in the last five successful Epic VoN6 runs nobody got any shard there (i.e. 5*12=60 players didn't get any shard, or one player didn't get any shard per 60 successful Epic runs).
So how many EVoN6 runs I need to do in order to get SoS shard?
Let's say that in 100 successful Epic runs I'll get 1 random shard. There are 19 items in VoN. So, I can expect SoS shard in 1900 successful Epic runs on average.
1900 EVoN6 runs? Kidding?

So, yes, please add Epic counter.
Maybe this way:
on 20th Epic completion you get a random shard
on 40th, 60th, etc. Epic completions you can select which shard

It will encourage more players to run Epic raids.

[eulogy098]

I can't help but wonder what the developer stance is on this subject.

Is there simply no shard rewards for high multi of runs because the game cant as-is differentiate between epic completions and n/h/e completions?

That is my estimation, I think that simply because the game does not differentiate, there will be no possibility of them adding this much-desired suggestion in. I just don't forsee them making it enough of a priority to spend an afternoon coding it, it's not directly profitable.

My 40th, 60th, 80th, so on completions have already passed, I'm already discouraged from running it ever again but I hope to see it changed for the sake of those that come after me. Or at least for new content to be released.

I had quit the game for a few months not that long ago mostly because of this frustrating issue and I'm starting to feel that itch again.

[Riksha]

I can't help but wonder what the developer stance is on this subject.

Is there simply no shard rewards for high multi of runs because the game cant as-is differentiate between epic completions and n/h/e completions?

That is my estimation, I think that simply because the game does not differentiate, there will be no possibility of them adding this much-desired suggestion in. I just don't forsee them making it enough of a priority to spend an afternoon coding it, it's not directly profitable.

My 40th, 60th, 80th, so on completions have already passed, I'm already discouraged from running it ever again but I hope to see it changed for the sake of those that come after me. Or at least for new content to be released.

I had quit the game for a few months not that long ago mostly because of this frustrating issue and I'm starting to feel that itch again.

they put it in for regular raid loot for this same exact reason so hopefully they put it in epic raids somehow

[R0cksteady]

As someone with over 200 epic dragon runs and still no SoS shard, I would have to agree.

It's a much needed feature.

Maybe 20th completion lists in epic raids for shards and 20th completion list in epic quests for seals, even.

I mean, I know it's supposed to be a grind, but with as random as it it, when people can walk in their second dragon run and grab that eSoS shard and others can run hundreds of times without getting it, it's just not a good system.

[Shade]

Its really pretty embarasing at this point that they still haven't even acknoledge let alone started working on a solution to the fact most epic end rewards are complete garbage.

Casual Inspired Quarters farming will give you far superior end rewards and overall platinum value of loot then epic devils assault.. its really dumb.

It's like turbine still thinks no one plays epics.. Yet on any given night at popular hours on khyber I can look at the lfms, and there is almost always 5-10+ active..

[Milfeulle]

It's pure luck, I got 5 sos shard out of 80 raids, but not a single drop for dragon eye shard.

[R0cksteady]

It's pure luck, I got 5 sos shard out of 80 raids, but not a single drop for dragon eye shard.

Yeah, and while luck has a part to play in grinding for gear, there should NOT be a gap like this. Raid completions was done well outside of epic. Sure, some people get tharnes in the first VoD run. But I have bad luck, and all my melee toons get it on 20th completion list, and I'm fine with having to wait.

Hell, it took 80 runs on my fighter to get madstones. Did I complain? Well, yeah. But still, at least that list had them.

But when I'm running Epic Dragon 200 and someone walks in and grabs it on their first run after being dead the whole raid because they joined the game last week and power leveled, I get a little ticked that it could be 200 more runs before I see one.

[JOTMON]

agreed, hense my post after 100 EDQ's and still no successful Torc wins on ones that came up for roll, or list choice options on Five 20th incrementals, and excluding the facepalm when a pug pulled one from the chest before saying.. huh... whats this thing do, oh I dont think i would use that...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=329919

Turn-in 100 Epic tokens to purchase epic items
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There are some days where the random drops just suck...and then a pug loots an item and says hey what is this thing after they pull the BTC item from the chest that they have no use for...

Add a option to turn in 100 tokens to purchase epic items.
Help to remove the annoyance of gruelling for those items we sometimes just cant seem to get.
Still have to run the quests to get the tokens.
Get your 100 tokens and go to a epic token vendor to turn them in for a bound item of your choice.

I would like to see all epic items on the list as well as +3 and +4 BTC tomes. (..Cost appropriate of course...)
TOD rings would be a nice choice on this list too...