Free lvl 20 FvS cure light wounds - how viable to lean on it?

[wyndzen]

Curious if anybody has experience with quicken, empower, maximize, empower healing, and an ardor clickie used with the free lvl 20 Fav Soul cure light wounds path?

EDIT: Heard very helpful feedback on amount of healing and such, but could somebody address its cooldown timer with and without quicken?

Does it work out to rely heavily on it for much of your healing? I realize that sometimes you need mass heal and such, of course, but could you do much of the healing in most non-raid epics with it? Can you do most of the healing on a Horoth tank with it?

I calculate that it heals for about 100 pts before healing amp is applied, after using superior ardor and having all 3 metamagicks operating.

Oh, and does quicken make a difference with it? Does the cooldown go down to 1 second rather than 2, or something like that?

Thanks...

[rendet]

My experience with maximize and empower healing is that it does 40-50 per cast. Not really amazing. Perhaps with empower it could get to 70?

[Trowa88]

Only have Max, quicken and empower healing on my fvs but its still very handy.

Usually rely on it in longer epics my crazy guild leader runs EADQ, ECof, Evon3, Evon5(Never again).

In Epic wizking I've gone from start to the first boss without touching my mana for heals (Instead opting to spam implosion after every cooldown instead and nuke casters).

Usually hits for 50ish on adverage with around 200 for crits with just major healing lore.

[AtomicMew]

Think of it this way: playing a FvS is like having a cake. Free CLW is like icing on the cake. The icing doesn't replace the cake, and it's possible to have cake with no icing or cake with a different kind of icing, but icing does make cake better.

However, if you're healing a horoth tank with lots of healing amp, then the icing could potentially account for 50% or more of the entire cake, which makes for a very sweet and tasty cake.

To sum it up: a good cake is a good cake with or without icing. Icing alone will never make a bad cake a good cake, but icing on a cake when being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp is like a situation in which someone gave you an entire bucket of icing, and so, if you were throwing a party, your guests could eat a proportionately larger amount of icing compared to cake (which is very sweet) than if, as was the original case, your cake were not being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp.

[Seph1roth5]

I only have max/empower and heal for 60+ regularly, but I think it helps save a ton of SP. I can't think of a single quest from epic to amrath that it hasn't helped in.

There's always going to be time in between fights where you can use it to top everyone off too.

[FrozenNova]

With max, emp, and ardor, it's 60-80.
Moreover, however, with a lot of investment in healing crits, this is a great single-target sustained healing tool.
It's even better if the target has healing amp.

[Iaga]

I spam that thing all the time. No, it's not going to be very useful in real fights - but it saves me hundreds and hundreds of SP every quest i run.

[wyndzen]

Think of it this way: playing a FvS is like having a cake. Free CLW is like icing on the cake. The icing doesn't replace the cake, and it's possible to have cake with no icing or cake with a different kind of icing, but icing does make cake better.

However, if you're healing a horoth tank with lots of healing amp, then the icing could potentially account for 50% or more of the entire cake, which makes for a very sweet and tasty cake.

To sum it up: a good cake is a good cake with or without icing. Icing alone will never make a bad cake a good cake, but icing on a cake when being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp is like a situation in which someone gave you an entire bucket of icing, and so, if you were throwing a party, your guests could eat a proportionately larger amount of icing compared to cake (which is very sweet) than if, as was the original case, your cake were not being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp.

Lol you are making me hungry! =)

[wyndzen]

Thanks for all of the input, guys.

If people are hitting 60-80 without empower healing, then that sounds like 90-120 with it. You are left with a character that is squeezed on feats for other stuff, but still interesting.

Haven't heard feedback on its cooldown timer or quicken spell with it. How does quicken affect it? Does the cooldown go to 1 sec from 2? Is the cooldown 2 secs to begin with, or is it slower for this free version of cure light wounds?

[Calebro]

Haven't heard feedback on its cooldown timer or quicken spell with it. How does quicken affect it? Does the cooldown go to 1 sec from 2? Is the cooldown 2 secs to begin with, or is it slower for this free version of cure light wounds?

Quicken does not affect cooldowns. Quicken affects casting time and removes the possibility of being interrupted.

[augie]

I believe the cool down for it is somewhere around 6-7 seconds. Feats like quicken help you cast it faster, but the cool down remains the same.

Free Cure Light Wounds doesn't sound all that awesome but once you have it, you'll see how great it really is. I use it ALL the time on my FVS. With typical healing enhancements and lore items, you'll see it crit for 150+ quite a bit. Even more with a heal-amped target. Great for topping off party members between fights and great for single-target, sustained healing like a Horoth tank.

[Iaga]

Thanks for all of the input, guys.

If people are hitting 60-80 without empower healing, then that sounds like 90-120 with it. You are left with a character that is squeezed on feats for other stuff, but still interesting.

What are you trying to figure out by the way?

[thewalex]

I've found it useful when epic scroll farming and eardweller farming. I can generally get away with healing any damage I take with the max + emp + ardor and only resort to a heal if I get hit with something nasty. For group raids, it's a great tool for topping off other players in between fights.

[samdsherman]

i have 3 paladin past lives, and max healing amp helf fvs and it hits me for around 200 non-crit. the cooldown is 6 seconds, and healing word is the reason i can have infinite mana in places like tod part 1. i could not solo nearly as much stuff as i do now without it (or i'd have to use mana pots to replace it).

[voodoogroves]

Think of it this way: playing a FvS is like having a cake. Free CLW is like icing on the cake. The icing doesn't replace the cake, and it's possible to have cake with no icing or cake with a different kind of icing, but icing does make cake better.

However, if you're healing a horoth tank with lots of healing amp, then the icing could potentially account for 50% or more of the entire cake, which makes for a very sweet and tasty cake.

To sum it up: a good cake is a good cake with or without icing. Icing alone will never make a bad cake a good cake, but icing on a cake when being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp is like a situation in which someone gave you an entire bucket of icing, and so, if you were throwing a party, your guests could eat a proportionately larger amount of icing compared to cake (which is very sweet) than if, as was the original case, your cake were not being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp.

God I'm hungry now.

[muffinlad]

Think of it this way: playing a FvS is like having a cake. Free CLW is like icing on the cake. The icing doesn't replace the cake, and it's possible to have cake with no icing or cake with a different kind of icing, but icing does make cake better.

However, if you're healing a horoth tank with lots of healing amp, then the icing could potentially account for 50% or more of the entire cake, which makes for a very sweet and tasty cake.

To sum it up: a good cake is a good cake with or without icing. Icing alone will never make a bad cake a good cake, but icing on a cake when being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp is like a situation in which someone gave you an entire bucket of icing, and so, if you were throwing a party, your guests could eat a proportionately larger amount of icing compared to cake (which is very sweet) than if, as was the original case, your cake were not being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp.

In this case, the question of "Cake, or Death" makes much more sense to me.

muffinizzard.

[Kakashi67]

Think of it this way: playing a FvS is like having a cake. Free CLW is like icing on the cake. The icing doesn't replace the cake, and it's possible to have cake with no icing or cake with a different kind of icing, but icing does make cake better.

However, if you're healing a horoth tank with lots of healing amp, then the icing could potentially account for 50% or more of the entire cake, which makes for a very sweet and tasty cake.

To sum it up: a good cake is a good cake with or without icing. Icing alone will never make a bad cake a good cake, but icing on a cake when being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp is like a situation in which someone gave you an entire bucket of icing, and so, if you were throwing a party, your guests could eat a proportionately larger amount of icing compared to cake (which is very sweet) than if, as was the original case, your cake were not being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp.

[gDra]

If people are hitting 60-80 without empower healing, then that sounds like 90-120 with it.

No, Metamagic stacks additively.

If you add Empower Healing you go from 250% (100% normal + 100% Max + 50% Emp) to 300% (100% normal + 100% Max + 50% Emp + 50% EmpH)

Thats only 20% more.

[butcheredspirit]

Curious if anybody has experience with quicken, empower, maximize, empower healing.

I don't think empower stacks with empower healing.

[NaturalHazard]

Think of it this way: playing a FvS is like having a cake. Free CLW is like icing on the cake. The icing doesn't replace the cake, and it's possible to have cake with no icing or cake with a different kind of icing, but icing does make cake better.

However, if you're healing a horoth tank with lots of healing amp, then the icing could potentially account for 50% or more of the entire cake, which makes for a very sweet and tasty cake.

To sum it up: a good cake is a good cake with or without icing. Icing alone will never make a bad cake a good cake, but icing on a cake when being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp is like a situation in which someone gave you an entire bucket of icing, and so, if you were throwing a party, your guests could eat a proportionately larger amount of icing compared to cake (which is very sweet) than if, as was the original case, your cake were not being eaten by someone with lots of healing amp.

Even better if its a horoth tank with high breaking point AC and lots of healing amp?