Remove Renown Bonus - Implement Decay

[Dispel]

Right now, there are guilds with only 6 members that have reached level 90+. This is because they're getting q 300% renown bonus. There are guilds that run just as much as they do, but have more people and are lower level.

My suggestion is to remove Renown Bonus! That's right, everyone gets the same standard renown amount.

BUT larger guilds will gain a higher decay, smaller guilds will have a lower decay.

This would mean all guilds would have a harder time leveling up, but the renown cost per level could easily be cut in half! What would this change do? Smaller guilds would still have an advantage, but they won't get 4,000 Renown from a Legendary Victory.

Larger guilds want an advantage of having more people? They gain more decay. Smaller guilds can't exploit the system by merely being smaller. This way, everyone gets exactly what they work for.

[kudoma]

If you remove renown bonus you focus on larger guilds with more people that can build renown faster. For guilds who like to remain small do to the over abundance of drama , they wouldn't be able to compete. The decay could be offset this the same way small guilds advance , larger guilds would see a less percentage of decay than the smaller guild.

[articwarrior]

If you remove renown bonus you focus on larger guilds with more people that can build renown faster. For guilds who like to remain small do to the over abundance of drama , they wouldn't be able to compete. The decay could be offset this the same way small guilds advance , larger guilds would see a less percentage of decay than the smaller guild.

got it! so start off as a large guild then when around level 60 kick everyone!

[JasonJi72]

Please do not suggest such a thing. I have a small guild, and we have been stuck in the mid 30's for forever. If anything, the decay needs to be reduced. I would really like to get a bigger ship someday.

[TheDjinnFor]

Please do not suggest such a thing. I have a small guild, and we have been stuck in the mid 30's for forever. If anything, the decay needs to be reduced. I would really like to get a bigger ship someday.

Oh, come on. Decay per day at level 39 is about 222 renown plus an extra 22.2 renown per member. Surely you can gain several times that much in a day?

[gloopygloop]

Oh, come on. Decay per day at level 39 is about 222 renown plus an extra 22.2 renown per member. Surely you can gain several times that much in a day?

...which makes me wonder why so many large guilds (including my own) are stuck in the 50's and 60's.

[Fensen]

I think the bonuses for smaller guilds are fine and I actually am in favor of removing renown decay completely. This is a game, not a career. As such, it should be fun and not another cause for daily stress. Let guilds keep what they have earned.

[puget]

I think the bonuses for smaller guilds are fine and I actually am in favor of removing renown decay completely. This is a game, not a career. As such, it should be fun and not another cause for daily stress. Let guilds keep what they have earned.

Agreed. This would make the dead weight of non logging players in larger guilds a non-issue.

[Schmoe]

...which makes me wonder why so many large guilds (including my own) are stuck in the 50's and 60's.

I would think that it is harder to maintain consistently high periods of play as the number of members increases. I don't know the actual numbers, so maybe there is a distinct advantage for being a small guild, but even if everything were equally weighted, the current results wouldn't surprise me.

[gloopygloop]

I would think that it is harder to maintain consistently high periods of play as the number of members increases. I don't know the actual numbers, so maybe there is a distinct advantage for being a small guild, but even if everything were equally weighted, the current results wouldn't surprise me.

If you mean that it's easier for slackers/pikers to hide in a large guild, then I agree.

Each person in a small guild has to earn more renown each day in order to keep the guild level steady than each person in a large guild would have to do, however. It's just easier to get a small group of good people together than it is to get a large group of good people together.

[Chazzie]

Why not?

No need to explain ~ Please move on & play the game a bit more before you throw stuff like this out here

[Battery]

/not signed

There are people who prefer smaller guilds without the drama of a larger guild and even with the small guild bonus they don't level up much faster than larger ones.

[Chai]

The bonus isnt the issue, the decay is the issue. If larger guilds hit level 60 and arent right back to 1/3 of the way through 59 in a few hours, theyd have no problem leveling.

[DrNuegebauer]

Why is it an issue for you that certain small guilds level up really fast?

(i) if you feel like you want to be a higher level, try making a 6 man guild yourself?

OR

(ii) if you can't handle the idea of being small, because it means you'd have to pug it all the time then consider what these smaller guilds go through.

Ultimately it's not a competition unless you make it one. And the way to "win" is to be in a 6 man guild (if you're looking for max guild level that is). Otherwise, enjoy being in a larger guild and the benefits that brings.

[Gkar]

The renown bonus is there for a good reason, and its not the problem.

The problem is in the punitive decay rate for large guilds. Just as very small guilds need help, very large guilds shouldn't be punished one for one for their size either, at least not at L50+ where the decay is stupid high.