There's only one reason to door Shroud.

[Beer_Dude]

Ok 2 reasons. If you need a shard to craft and will be tring once you craft ok i get it. Other than that the only reason you should door out is if that's your last toon that can run another drunken raid run in the Shroud and you still want to do more quests with a bunch of drunk idiots.

Otherwise thrpISA no

[Namey]

I personally DDoor out if I pull a Large Scale in part 4. That, in my opinion, is enough value for a non-completed run.

[altrocks]

Ok 2 reasons. If you need a shard to craft and will be tring once you craft ok i get it. Other than that the only reason you should door out is if that's your last toon that can run another drunken raid run in the Shroud and you still want to do more quests with a bunch of drunk idiots.

Otherwise thrpISA no

Just farming Shards of Power is enough reason, especially if it's your 3rd or later toon to hit Shroud. Mats are no problem when you're running multiple toons to completion every 3 days, but the shards are BTC and required to craft. and the SoP drop rate in phase 1 is horrible. I farmed it about 7 times on my rogue before doing my first completion and still didn't have a SoP to start crafting my GS weapon. Had the weapon and mats, though. It kinda sucks. And waiting 3 days between attempts at a SoP makes it even worse.

[Atenhotep]

Ok look .. ddooring out of shroud is a TERRIBLE idea.

First off ...

The whole ddoor thing started because of an old glitch where if you recalled out you'd end up in Korthos .. but that was like forever ago ...

Why is it stupid to DDOOR out?

1. You can slash/death or simply recall .. if you DDOOR you end up still in the raid but at the beginning and in the time it takes to use the ddoor somebody can still hit the altar thus you dont get your end chest but are now on timer with a completion.

Please just stop using Ddoors in shroud.

[grayham]

Finally, I'm glad someone has said it! I think noone really questions why this happens, and just believes whoever in the raid tells them 'why' they produce a DDoor. There's a wider issue here of newer players not seeking out answers from good sources-which in turn is a wider issue on believing what you hear and not critically engaging with information. More people should look on forums where folk who actually know the answers (not me, I hasten to add) can help, debate and offer multiple perspectives. Here's some incorrect information I've seen in party/general chat that those concerned have taken at face value...

-Min2 is the best dps in the game
-Doing chrono on elite gives more named loot than normal (not 100% sure on this one, but my forum led understanding is it makes no difference)
-It is easy-i.e normal- to TR in a week
-'Pure breeds' will always be stronger than multi-class

I could go on.....

[ddohombre]

Just an uneducated question, but, why does it matter if someone else DDOORS out? Does it impact anyone else?

[Niarda]

So was not just me that thought DDoor was just a bit weird as recalling is just as fast.
At least now I know there are other Grumpy old men out there,

[Niarda]

Just an uneducated question, but, why does it matter if someone else DDOORS out? Does it impact anyone else?

Nop it does not affect any 1 else, but to me is almost as if some runs make it sound like shroud cannot be run without DDoor.

[sweez]

Not finishing shroud and then farming it just makes you start to hate it that much quicker.

[sweez]

Just an uneducated question, but, why does it matter if someone else DDOORS out? Does it impact anyone else?

You've never seen 11 people waiting at the barrier in part 5 scratching their arses waiting for 1 person to confirm whether he's out or not? Sure you can say 'it's just a minute', but why hold people's time hostage ever for that one minute?

If you REALLY REALLY MUST not finish, just /death out when Harry's at 5%

[NinjaNeed]

Whenever I run a shroud I always give people the chance to finish out before we click the last alter. I wait about 2 mins, time it takes for me to go to the kitchen and get a new drink, when I come back I count down from 5 and finish on 0. If someone says something while I am counting down then I will delay a bit longer as is required.

Very rarely am I in such a huge hurry that waiting the extra minute will effect (or is it affect? Think its effect lol) my gameplay. If a group is waiting for me then I inform them "just waiting for people to FO and ill loot and be there", if they can not be bothered to wait the 30 seconds for that then I dont want to group with them.

[ddohombre]

You've never seen 11 people waiting at the barrier in part 5 scratching their arses waiting for 1 person to confirm whether he's out or not? Sure you can say 'it's just a minute', but why hold people's time hostage ever for that one minute?

If you REALLY REALLY MUST not finish, just /death out when Harry's at 5%

Ahh..that makes sense then.

[Postumus]

You've never seen 11 people waiting at the barrier in part 5 scratching their arses waiting for 1 person to confirm whether he's out or not? Sure you can say 'it's just a minute', but why hold people's time hostage ever for that one minute?

If you REALLY REALLY MUST not finish, just /death out when Harry's at 5%

Hostage for a minute? Stand up, look out the window, pet the dog, take a drink, check your inventory... who cares, it's sixty seconds of your life. Relax. You probably spent 10x that just waiting for it to start.

[FlyingTurtle]

Just an uneducated question, but, why does it matter if someone else DDOORS out? Does it impact anyone else?

The faster you pop out, the less chance of someone hitting the altar before you do.

Also, instead of having to cancel your recall countdown, if you see the quest is completed after you arrive out of the ddoor you can just go back and collect your large chest instead of suffering a loss for the completion.

Basically the window for being screwed by someone in the party is a bit smaller.

[Blank_Zero]

Hostage for a minute? Stand up, look out the window, pet the dog, take a drink, check your inventory... who cares, it's sixty seconds of your life. Relax. You probably spent 10x that just waiting for it to start.

Some of us have done Shroud enough times that every minute in there is a wasted one.

We run it fast and get out. If we had more quests that guaranteed one or more larges a run, Shroud LFMs would be abandoned by vets completely.

That minute we are waiting on you is a minute we could be forming for the next raid in the train.

[Ytteri]

Personally I've never entered shroud without completing it, but if someone asks for a ddoor I'll throw one. It's easier than trying to explain why ddoor is bad.

[Pwesiela]

The faster you pop out, the less chance of someone hitting the altar before you do.

Also, instead of having to cancel your recall countdown, if you see the quest is completed after you arrive out of the ddoor you can just go back and collect your large chest instead of suffering a loss for the completion.

Basically the window for being screwed by someone in the party is a bit smaller.

Actually, if you take the ddoor and then see completion, you're screwed out of your chests. The portal to part 1 is down, remember? Better to recall and cancel for the chest than ddoor and be stuck without it.

That having been said, recalling is faster for everyone involved.

[ORIGINALBAG0]

Also, instead of having to cancel your recall countdown, if you see the quest is completed after you arrive out of the ddoor you can just go back and collect your large chest instead of suffering a loss for the completion.

Silly Turtle. Ddoor puts you on the wrong side of a timed portal. There's no getting back to any chests if you Ddoor, unless they changed that on the sly.

It's like taking a ddoor in... well, any raid, I guess. Except Hound. Ddoor to your heart's content in Hound. And VoN6.

[Blank_Zero]

If you DDoor and get locked out of a chest, type /stuck. It will take you back to part 5.

[NaturalHazard]

I always complete, i find its better to complete with all my toons then go solo sins when they are all on timer, seem to get way more scales from sins than I would doing shroud part 4 over and over.