Being able to lock in your +4 tome on a char

[Yajerman01]

Okay here is my rationale and/or thought.

Alot of people have acquired +4 tomes; moreover these very same people hold onto them becuase they are unsure if they want to TR. Most people simply do not TR once they read a +4 tome and feel pigeonheld.

here me out, it is just a thought, agree/disagree, no matter I just wanted to throw this out there.

What if Turbine offered some form of carry-over spell into your next life that allows you to retain the +4 tome stat? :moreover, make it extremely costly via turbine points and make it dissapate when you achive the level requirement for a +4 tome. That way if you decide to TR again, you would have to re-purchase the same spell(item) in order to preserve your +4 tome again.

1. This obviously would net Turbine cash for the purchase making it only available via Store.
2. Give those people who already sacrificed their Chars who have eaten them a costly way of preserving those tomes.

Of course the tome would not take effect until the required level has been achieved and of course this is only for +4 tomes; all other tomes would be erased.

I do not really care one way or the other but I thought making an expensive option for those few would truly keep them in shape for Tring.

your thoughts?

[elraido]

How many people even have +4 tomes? In all the years I have been playing, I have seen like 2 drop. Heck, I have a hard time getting +3 tomes...I have only gotten 3 of those myself. Two of them being con tomes on the same guy

[Chette]

I have two +4 tomes on one of my characters and she may never nom either of them. She is en-route to completionist, and the devs have already stated that they will release another class this year, and may tackle druids next year, meaning she will lose her completionist feat and have to TR again. Given the choice between the +4 tome and the completionist feat, I'm going to choose the feat, since it's +2 to all the stats, not just +2 to one stat (vs a +2 tome that is). So those tomes will sit in my bank possibly forever in the current state of the game.

[Grobal]

I like the idea. I don't like paying for it, however there needs to be an incentive for Turbine to do this. It's a luxury to keep tomes so since TP are usually used for luxuries (shared bank, extra characters, mana pots, etc) and since I get 500 Turbine points for being VIP anyway I will sign this post.

/signed

[Thrudh]

I have two +4 tomes on one of my characters and she may never nom either of them. She is en-route to completionist, and the devs have already stated that they will release another class this year, and may tackle druids next year, meaning she will lose her completionist feat and have to TR again. Given the choice between the +4 tome and the completionist feat, I'm going to choose the feat, since it's +2 to all the stats, not just +2 to one stat (vs a +2 tome that is). So those tomes will sit in my bank possibly forever in the current state of the game.

That there is the real problem...

If nothing else, they should let completionists keep their tomes.

[redspecter23]

I think they should add a recipe to the stone of change that allows you to convert any bound or unbound tome into an "eternal" bound to character tome of the same quality. You could use this eternal tome as many times as you wish (obviously non-stacking with itself) so you could have the tome for any of your future lives but never transfer it to anyone else.

[Yajerman01]

I like the idea. I don't like paying for it, however there needs to be an incentive for Turbine to do this. It's a luxury to keep tomes so since TP are usually used for luxuries (shared bank, extra characters, mana pots, etc) and since I get 500 Turbine points for being VIP anyway I will sign this post.

/signed

I am not sure, but I believe you have to urchase Astral Diamonds, dont you? (sans finding the occasional one from loot). The rarety of Astral Diamonds and making a comparable caost analysis could make this possible. That avoids TP then

[Qzipoun]

+4 tomes are some of the rarest things you can get on a character. Who in their right mind would use one and then TR!?

TRing should let us keep our tomes. It should be that simple.

I've had two +4 tomes for my MAIN stats for months now sitting in the bank. I won't TR after eating them and I won't eat them unless I know for sure I won't TR. Given the fact that completionist would require you to TR every time a new class comes out, it makes no sense for me to have to get a +4 tome each time a new class is out.

There should not be any store item or anything fancy, just TR and have your tomes applied as you level up (same with LR and GR)


My 2cp

[MaxwellEdison]

I think they should add a recipe to the stone of change that allows you to convert any bound or unbound tome into an "eternal" bound to character tome of the same quality. You could use this eternal tome as many times as you wish (obviously non-stacking with itself) so you could have the tome for any of your future lives but never transfer it to anyone else.

I like this idea. I like it a lot.

[MaxwellEdison]

I think they should add a recipe to the stone of change that allows you to convert any bound or unbound tome into an "eternal" bound to character tome of the same quality. You could use this eternal tome as many times as you wish (obviously non-stacking with itself) so you could have the tome for any of your future lives but never transfer it to anyone else.

I like this idea. I like it a lot. Make it take a heart of wood (lesser, greater, +1-3, I don't care).

[Tsuarok]

The loss of raid loot to tring is ridiculous. Tomes are raid loot. If you can have the tomes apply during reg. reincarnation, you can do it during normal leveling.

But you want to sell +2 tomes. Which is understandable. So just have the +4 and +3 apply without the +1 or +2. That way all the builds that need +2 tomes for TWF will still buy them.

[kernal42]

This has been suggested many times before.

And it is still an excellent suggestion.

-Kernal

[Kale_Hagan]

That there is the real problem...

If nothing else, they should let completionists keep their tomes.

I just think that you shouldn't lose your completionist feat if they add another class. If you LR a completionist, sure, but don't lose it automatically.

The completionist feat should work like that barbarian enhancement that they don't offer anymore, but some still have.

[Qzipoun]

I think they should add a recipe to the stone of change that allows you to convert any bound or unbound tome into an "eternal" bound to character tome of the same quality. You could use this eternal tome as many times as you wish (obviously non-stacking with itself) so you could have the tome for any of your future lives but never transfer it to anyone else.

I thought about this a little more and think this would be a perfect way for tomes to work:

All Tomes become Bound To Character on Use but have infinite uses. If it makes coding any easier, make them trinkets you can equip and Bound to Character on Equip (this is risky as you can easily 'accidentally' equip and unbound tome).

This has no negative effect and makes the whole LR/GR/TR process more consistent and much more TR friendly

[Dawnsfire]

Personally if I were them I would sell an improved true heart. A +1 true heart to preserve +1 tomes, +2 for +2s all the way up to +4 true hearts to cover the +4 tomes. Just a thought...

[xTethx]

My melee had a +4 str,dex,con, and yes even cha tome. Then I hit the TR button. Doesnt disappont me, I knew the risks, as should anyone else wanting to TR. Sure its a grind and they are rare, but if you do it for +4's, whats to stop someone from creating yet another i want my tomes when i TR thread.

/unsigned

[puget]

+4 tomes are some of the rarest things you can get on a character. Who in their right mind would use one and then TR!?

TRing should let us keep our tomes. It should be that simple.

I've had two +4 tomes for my MAIN stats for months now sitting in the bank. I won't TR after eating them and I won't eat them unless I know for sure I won't TR. Given the fact that completionist would require you to TR every time a new class comes out, it makes no sense for me to have to get a +4 tome each time a new class is out.

There should not be any store item or anything fancy, just TR and have your tomes applied as you level up (same with LR and GR)


My 2cp

I agree.

[GoRinNoSho]

Sounds like something that could be way up there total favor reward to affect an account on a server or later be a DDO Store purchasable thing. Basically like 32 point or veteran. Could be attached to or beyond the FvS at 2500.

[ddo.rsmo.pt]

I like this idea. I like it a lot. Make it take a heart of wood (lesser, greater, +1-3, I don't care).

...and I agree with the agreed. Probably a True Heart would be fair.

[Qzipoun]

...and I agree with the agreed. Probably a True Heart would be fair.

Probably have this happen automatically for all tomes would be fair...