Akin to the Rocky movies, Aandre is back! This build has matured over the years, starting out as a Dwarf with few toys, just a ton of strength and con. After a beating from the fighter/barb community, and thousands of hours playing, I've learned a whole lot how my ultimate fighter should turn out.
If there's a single real life human being that had the traits of the D&D half-orc, both in vanity, height and weight, it would have to be Andre the Giant. Billed at 7'4 525lbs, many argue that he was only 6'9. Either way, the Bulgarian born André René Roussimoff was an amazing athlete (early in his career) with legendary size and a world renowned heart of a lion. To wrestling fans around the world, I dedicate this build to the man the fans knew as the Eight Wonder of the World. To non-wrestling fans, just think of the big loveable Fezzik!
I will put together Half Orc, Dwarf and Warforged versions. 28/32/34 and 36 point versions. Because its a THF, some will prefer to build as a Barbarian, or as a mixed-class variety. Yes, you can adapt to TWF fairly easily as well. It's really up to you (you can ask!). I prefer building and playing a straight fighter. A great starter build (Id start as a dwarf if 28 only points, either way as 32 points) or a straight up powerhouse fighter build for purists. Top-flight THF fighter DPS, easy to play fighter w/o multi-classing. You can personalize these templates so many different ways.
32 Point THF DWARF Fighter. (Great for the new player or seasoned vet)
** With 10 INT, you get 2 skill points, 3 at level 7+ with a +2 tome! Great for boosting the typically poor fighter skill pool.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.2 DDO Character Planner Home Page Aandre III Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male (20 Fighter) Hit Points: 446 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 18 Reflex: 7 Will: 7 Starting Abilities Base Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) Strength 18 Dexterity 10 Constitution 18 Intelligence 10 Wisdom 10 Charisma 6 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 2 16 Bluff -2 2 Concentration 4 9 Diplomacy -2 2 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -2 -1 Heal 0 1 Hide 0 1 Intimidate -2 2 Jump 7 23 Listen 0 1 Move Silently 0 1 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair 0 1 Search 0 3 Spot 0 10 Swim 4 9 Tumble 0.5 3 Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+2) Skill: Jump (+3) Skill: Tumble (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Trip Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 2 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Tumble (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Level 3 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Level 4 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I Level 5 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Level 6 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 7 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery I Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I Level 8 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II Level 9 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+1) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 10 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III Level 11 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Tumble (+0.5) Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Tumble (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II Level 13 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II Level 14 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 15 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III Level 17 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Enhancement: Fighter Strength III Level 18 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II Level 19 (Fighter) Skill: Balance (+0.5) Skill: Spot (+1) Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization II
28 Point Dwarf build:
18STR, 10DEX, 16CON, 10INT, 10 WIS (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
34 Point Dwarf build:
18STR, 10DEX, 16CON, 10INT, 12 WIS (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
36 Point Dwarf build:
18STR, 8DEX, 20CON, 10INT, 10 WIS (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
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34 point THF HALF ORC Fighter.
I'm really interested in what the fighter community has to say about THEIR level 20 Half Orcs, and how it would differ from this layout.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.2 DDO Character Planner Home Page Aandre the Giant III Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male (20 Fighter) Hit Points: 372 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 16 Reflex: 8 Will: 6 Starting Abilities Base Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) Strength 20 Dexterity 12 Constitution 16 Intelligence 10 Wisdom 8 Charisma 6 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Level 1 (Fighter) Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Half-Orc Orc Blood Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Trip Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 2 (Fighter) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Level 3 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Enhancement: Orcish Strength I Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Level 4 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Level 5 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Enhancement: Orcish Fury I Level 6 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow Enhancement: Kensei Greataxe Mastery I Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 7 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 8 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Orcish Strength II Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 10 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I Level 11 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II Level 13 (Fighter) Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II Level 14 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Strength III Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II Level 17 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 18 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude III Level 19 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) II Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost II Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity Enhancement: Orcish Fury II
Skills: max balance, and as much jump as you like.
28 Point HO build:
20STR, 8DEX, 16CON, 10INT (1 skill points, 2 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
20STR, 10DEX, 16CON, 8INT (1 skill points, if you dont plan to use +2 int tome)
32 Point HO build:
20STR, 10DEX, 16CON, 10INT (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
36 Point HO build:
20STR, 8DEX, 18CON, 10INT (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
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32 point THF WARFORGED Fighter. 4x toughness. Falchion master.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.2 DDO Character Planner Home Page Aandre IV Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male (20 Fighter) Hit Points: 488 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 18 Reflex: 8 Will: 5 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 18 28 Dexterity 12 14 Constitution 18 22 Intelligence 10 12 Wisdom 6 8 Charisma 6 8 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Level 1 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Trip Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Immunities Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 2 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I Level 3 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I Level 4 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Level 5 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 6 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 7 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 8 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II Level 10 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III Level 11 (Fighter) Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II Level 13 (Fighter) Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II Level 14 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery II Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization II Level 17 (Fighter) Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude II Level 18 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III Level 19 (Fighter) Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery III Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw Enhancement: Fighter Strength III Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Skills: max balance, and as much jump as you like.
28 Point Warforged build:
18STR, 8DEX, 18CON, 10INT, (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
34 Point Warforged build:
18STR, 8DEX, 20CON, 10INT (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
36 Point Warforged build:
18STR, 10DEX, 20CON, 10INT (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
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Starter GEAR:
Carnifex
Greater banes, Burst Greataxes/Falchions
Stat items that pushes STR and CON up to next even number
Guard items
Guard armor
End Game Gear:
Dragontouched armor (healing amp/destruct/guards)
eSOS
Min 2 Greataxe or Falchions (Holy/Acidburst/Acidblast)
Lightning 2 Greataxe or Falcions (Holy/Shock Burst/Shock Blast)
3x pos Maul (holy/goodburst/Raise Dead clickie/Goodblast, many just make it 2x pos for the raise dead clickie)
As always with my builds, these builds can be played well with almost no top end gear or tomes, although good gear would certainly help in the short and long term!
I'm wide open to suggestions, let's talk melee!
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07-12-2011, 11:52 AM #1Community Member
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Andre the Giant - THF Dwarf/Half Orc (20 Fighter)
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07-12-2011, 07:43 PM #2Community Member
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I will open the discussion with my one problem I've had playing pure fighters
Terrible saves
The second is more a given with choosing fighter - no easy self heals
I would love to hear what people have done to help with this
Oh, and nice to see a tribute to Andre
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07-12-2011, 07:53 PM #3Community Member
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Thanks OldAquarian!
Saves can be increased with tomes, spells, auras, enhancements, feats, and gear.
Really the only save that concerns me about on a fighter is will save. Every class has its negatives. As long as you boost your will save high as possible, you'' be ok most of the time. A resistance item should certainly be part of the grand plan.
As for self heals, thats just not our forte, however there are things you can do to make yourself easier to heal. Healing amp, watching your healers location (aka playing smart) and good buffs are the three biggest benefits in my book. Not just other peoples buffs, but your own selections of potions. Rage/haste/remove blindness, remove curse etc...
Then there's triple negative greensteel. Blindness Immunity, Disease Immunity, Immunity to Fear, Proof against Poison - Symbol of Weakness (3/day), Deathblock - Slay Living Guard (On-Hit, DC 30 Fortitude Save, Does 3d6) <--- all in one item.
Being prepared for the quest or raid at hand goes a long way, even on a pure, non-umd fighter.Last edited by LeslieWest_GuitarGod; 07-12-2011 at 08:10 PM.
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07-13-2011, 09:05 PM #4Community Member
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Lets talk fighter feats!
FEATS make the difference between fighters and barbarians. Feats allow Fighters to specialize in tactics and/or branch out into such paths as an ac tank, or even ranged. The feat variety and ease of building and playing are all advantages for a fighter.
At 1st level, a fighter gets a bonus combat-oriented feat in addition to the feat that any 1st-level character gets.
The fighter also gains an additional bonus feat at 2nd level and every two fighter levels thereafter (4th, 6th, etc.).
The feats Weapon Specialization, Greater Weapon Focus, and Greater Weapon Specialization are only available to fighters, and only with a minimum class level of 4, 8, or 12 respectively.
These are the fighter bonus feats. A fighter must meet prerequisites for each bonus feat, including ability score and base attack bonus minimums.
B
Bow Strength
Brutal Throw
C
Cleave
Combat Expertise
D
Dodge
E
Exotic Weapon Proficiency
G
Great Cleave
Greater Two Handed Fighting
Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Greater Weapon Focus
Greater Weapon Specialization
H
Hamstring
I
Improved Critical
Improved Feint
Improved Precise Shot
Improved Shield Bash
Improved Shield Mastery
Improved Sunder
Improved Trip
Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Improved Two-Handed Fighting
M
Manyshot
Mobility
O
Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
P
Point Blank Shot
Power Attack
Power Critical
Precise Shot
Precision
Q
Quick Draw
R
Rapid Reload
Rapid Shot
Resilience
S
Sap
Shield Mastery
Shot on the Run
Slicing Blow
Spring Attack
Stunning Blow
Superior Weapon Focus
T
Two Weapon Blocking
Two Weapon Defense
Two Weapon Fighting
Two-Handed Fighting
W
Weapon Finesse
Weapon Focus
Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
Weapon Focus: Piercing
Weapon Focus: Ranged
Weapon Focus: Slashing
Weapon Focus: Thrown
Weapon Specialization
Whirling Steel Strike
Whirlwind Attack
Z
Zen Archery
A fighter can be so many different things. No other class allows this much flexibility in weapon mastery.Last edited by LeslieWest_GuitarGod; 07-13-2011 at 10:11 PM.
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07-13-2011, 09:14 PM #5Community Member
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To fighters out there, has ANYONE taken a feat I did not take?
Did it work out?
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Hi,
My take on Andre would be 14 Monk / 6 Wizard.
Monk because he basically just punched and choked his opponents.
6 Wizard gives Zombie form to emulate his lumbering yet powerful attacks. Combined with mountain stance for decreased dex and movement. Dark monk too I guess, but no Ninja Spy.
Half-orc, LN
Stats: (32pt.)
Str -- 20
Dex -- 8
Con -- 18
Int -- 6
Wis -- 8
Cha -- 6
Feats:
Stunning Fist (m)
Toughness (m)
Power Attack (m)
Imp crit: Bludgeon
Spell focus: Necro (w)
Mental Toughness (w)
Bullheaded
Skill Focus: Intim
Brutal Throw
Stunning Blow
Cleave
Great Cleave
It's a total mess I know, but would be funny as to play!
I realize this does nothing to contribute toward your actual build(s) OP, but the post's title caught my eye and I was a HUGE wrestling fan back in the day. B-)Last edited by FunFooFurat; 07-14-2011 at 11:00 PM.
Sarlona: Hecatomb -- Darkrat -- Plectrum -- Sweep the leg Johnny
Cannith: Grail -- Longshot -- Prowler -- Twosandals -- Ruckus
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07-13-2011, 11:12 PM #7Community Member
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Originally Posted by FunFooFurat
Haha. Its ok, Andre drank so much, if he was alive to play DDO - he might even roll this toon!
..... Bull headed Im sure for the Andre head butt
..... Great Cleave for that umberhulk chest slap he used to hit his opponents with in the corner, remember that!? I swear the arena would shake when he did that!!
Huge wrestling here too of course -- lolLast edited by LeslieWest_GuitarGod; 07-13-2011 at 11:45 PM.
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07-14-2011, 12:36 AM #8Community Member
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Hahaha! Classic Andre move. Man that had to hurt. Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod
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I'm following a similar path as yours, I made some silly initial feat selections, but will correct them over time. Also will reset my enhancements too. Only L6, but this is my first pure melee build.
It's working out fun so far.
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Cool let me know how it works for you! The dwarf version I've been running since game launch in 2006. Rock solid, leading kill counts often from level 1 right up to end game. He was really a force. Having a blast running the HO tho!!! Ask any questions if you have em, keep in touch Originally Posted by Rumbaar
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why great axe for kensei specialization?
this was a well timed thread for me as I am working on my first pure fighter build, a 32 pt Horc. so thank you for some very good ideas.
but did have a question about weapon selection. I know it's easy to change enhancements around depending on what weapons you find, buy, craft but curious about your selection of Great Axe for the Kensei weapon.
at level 6, I am using good old Carnifex, so boosting that for now but wouldn't great swords (obviously for SoS) or falchion for the extra crit damage be better at higher levels? I see you list all these weapon types in your gear lists, but wondering if you keep the great axe specialization to balance it out a bit against the other weapon types when you swap around
thanks again for the interesting post
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Great axe traditionally was the only real good choice for two handed fighters. The slow weapon speed of the greatsword or falchion negated any and all advantages they had to crit range. So I have many of the games very best great axes. On a dwarf there's no other specialization to have. On a non-dwarf, its open to debate. I kept it on greataxe for now, since I have more greataxes (and as you wisely pointed out its boosted the carnifex and other great axes), but it may change in the future. Originally Posted by kendo
Since Update 5, swing speed of greatsword and falchion have been increased, so it's much closer. But unlike many people try to argue on this forum weapon speed of all thf weapons are not equal, great axe still comes out slightly ahead (along with quaterstaff.) If your a numbers guy here's the irrefutable proof --> http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=275144
Now since update 5, I actually utilize falchions and greatswords. They are "close enough" in swing speed to utilize their crit range advantages. However against high fort mobs, greataxes come out ahead.
On Kensei III fighters, I still prefer greataxes and mauls (for dr situations). However against trash mobs falchion can come out ahead in certain situations so I say look for either GA or Falchions. Your strength and improved crit slashing are the dominant dps factors so dont sweat the small details.
Carnifex early on is the indisputable king.
I have read all of the math threads that swear GA or falchion or Great sword is tops. Everyone has an opinion. In actual gameplay however, I look at each weapon on its own merits. Base damage/crit range/crit muliplier. Epic SoS is a game changer, but even if I land one I'll most likely never switch to greatsword mastery.
Moral to the story: Dont be confused by people who insist Kensei III weapon choice is limited to just one weapon.
Try to find/buy/craft the best weapons for as many situations as you can.Last edited by LeslieWest_GuitarGod; 07-14-2011 at 03:43 PM.
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07-21-2011, 08:51 AM #13Community Member
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Added the 28 pt HO template with two strategies. A 10 base int version that grants fighters 2 skill points at level 8 (with a +2 tome investment), or a higher dex version which grants a better reflex save with no tomes. I prefer the skills version personally, so you can build balance and jump higher, but the dex version requires no tomes and is still great (doesnt lose any con/str).
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07-21-2011, 09:06 AM #14Community Member
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I'm anxious to see the Zack Ryder build...
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lol. You'll be waiting awhile. There aren't any wrestlers today that anyone will care about in the next 20-40 years. The last pro wrestling era that mattered ended long ago, imo. Originally Posted by theboyftw
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07-21-2011, 11:19 AM #16Community Member
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The Warforged version. 4x toughness. Kensei Falchion master.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.2 DDO Character Planner Home Page Aandre IV Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male (20 Fighter) Hit Points: 488 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 18 Reflex: 8 Will: 5 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 18 28 Dexterity 12 14 Constitution 18 22 Intelligence 10 12 Wisdom 6 8 Charisma 6 8 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Level 1 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Automatic) Attack Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL) Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General) Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Feat: (Automatic) Sunder Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency Feat: (Automatic) Trip Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Immunities Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 2 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I Level 3 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I Level 4 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Level 5 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 6 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 7 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 8 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II Level 10 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III Level 11 (Fighter) Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II Level 13 (Fighter) Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II Level 14 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery II Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III Enhancement: Fighter Falchion Specialization II Level 17 (Fighter) Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude II Level 18 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Fighter Kensei III Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III Level 19 (Fighter) Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery III Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
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Here's the point spread for the non-32 point warforged variant...
28 Point Warforged build:
18STR, 8DEX, 18CON, 10INT, (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
34 Point Warforged build:
18STR, 8DEX, 20CON, 10INT (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
36 Point Warforged build:
18STR, 10DEX, 20CON, 10INT (2 starting skill points, 3 at 8 if you use a +2 int tome at 7)
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