My take on PUGS as of late.

[Beer_Dude]

Sometimes you do want people to keep going in circles, so they feel like doing something and wont screw up stuff in the middle
~True story

I disagree sir. They can run circles in the middle. No mobs will go in there and kill them. They will feel like they're running in circles but there will be no mobs to kill them. Thus they will be alive to kill XXyzz when it's time. If they run the outside most of those tards will die. The vets will live as they're geared for it. Actually that's how we got into this situation. Newb/noob sees geared out vet do it. Noob/newb thinks that's how it's done. Not! Aussie did this in one of my runs. I told her have at it. Guess what? Some noob will see this and think he can do the same. He'll die along with the other noobs that think that's the way you do it and we'll continue to have wipes in Hound runs that should never happen.

[Miahoo]

I disagree sir. They can run circles in the middle.

Man! I'll do it! I wonder if they will really keep running in circles inside, will be so funny

Although I sometimes do it just to keep a watch about trash comming inside (When I see no one else paying attention).

[Aurora_nyx]

I experienced similar things too. One thing I've notice, if people are from well known guilds, or larger guilds, are usually solid players. Its the players from smaller, newer guilds or guilds with bad rep that are a gamble.

I've found that it doesn't matter with guilds. The idiot I had challenge me to a pvp match... well known large guild tat I actually have friends in. Squishy caster tr that died 16 times... well known large guild. 15 yo that wouldn't stop insulting/hitting on me... you guessed it.(and I could go on)

Guilds names have nothing to do with the player. I know people like to say oh they're in xxx guild, they will be uber awesome... you can still be an idiot and be in a "good "guild.

[Beer_Dude]

I've found that it doesn't matter with guilds. The idiot I had challenge me to a pvp match... well known large guild tat I actually have friends in. Squishy caster tr that died 16 times... well known large guild. 15 yo that wouldn't stop insulting/hitting on me... you guessed it.(and I could go on)

Guilds names have nothing to do with the player. I know people like to say oh they're in xxx guild, they will be uber awesome... you can still be an idiot and be in a "good "guild.

I couldn't agree more.

[BluWaterSeaWitch]

Guilds names have nothing to do with the player. I know people like to say oh they're in xxx guild, they will be uber awesome... you can still be an idiot and be in a "good "guild.

It cracks me up when its all about the "guild name" I have 2 level 20's in a "well known guild" and all my other 7 in a guild that isn't even 20 yet, but I am the same player, so its funny that someone would make a choice of a player because of the guild name.. heck when our guild hits 20 all we are going to have on the boat is 2 bars, (yes inside joke for anyone that knows the baby guild)

I have taken my new divine all the way to 20, yes I have had a few ship buffs along the way, but I learned I really don't need them. I had a party member argue with me that I "couldn't" do without buffs... are you kidding me?? really?? I made it a point to run elite runs at level and guess what I did just fine..

[Elyanna]

Rather than hijacking the other threads I figured I'd start my own.
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I found the same issue when I was pugging so I curled up and went either solo or guild runs, even running with my gimpy guild leaders crazy builds, to get me the xp I needed for Cammie's current life. She's sitting at level 18 with almost level 19 rank 2 in the bank awaiting the final rank of level 19 or until 20k from cap before I level her.

I have 2 other characters Flintquick and Saliadar, who are level 18 in their first lives, and will be trying to get to cap so I can TR them and make them more workable characters instead of the slight gimps that they are. I might be looking for some good fun runs and you always seem to bring them so I'll keep and eye peeled for a while and see if you got anything I can help with going.

[Namey]

I've found that it doesn't matter with guilds. The idiot I had challenge me to a pvp match... well known large guild tat I actually have friends in. Squishy caster tr that died 16 times... well known large guild. 15 yo that wouldn't stop insulting/hitting on me... you guessed it.(and I could go on)

This caster TR sounds vaguely familiar, though the one I quested with recently wasn't from a large guild of note. Still the same type.

TR Sorc first refusing some very basic instructions in Threnal ("Please don't fight on top of sleeping Coyle"), then trying to challenge me in to a kill count e-***** fight, following it up with piking through multiple quests at the entrance, failure to keep the quest chain intact even with instructions given by the leader, and finally topping it off with threats of my utter DESTRUCTION if I ever attempt to PvP him.

Overall real class act.

[taurean430]

Sometimes you do want people to keep going in circles, so they feel like doing something and wont screw up stuff in the middle
~True story

More often than not what you invite with that method is a few melee kiting renders into the middle from the outside in large numbers. It's entertainment, but can really screw up the raid.

[fedoc]

Would but ..... work wouldn't be all that pleased!

[crazycaren]

Hi
I've had more fun when joining/leading with BYOH or "speed run" in the lfm.

[Aurora_nyx]

This caster TR sounds vaguely familiar, though the one I quested with recently wasn't from a large guild of note. Still the same type.

TR Sorc first refusing some very basic instructions in Threnal ("Please don't fight on top of sleeping Coyle"), then trying to challenge me in to a kill count e-***** fight, following it up with piking through multiple quests at the entrance, failure to keep the quest chain intact even with instructions given by the leader, and finally topping it off with threats of my utter DESTRUCTION if I ever attempt to PvP him.

Overall real class act.

I really can't remember wiz or sorc... all I do remember is him running into area, ticking everything off before anyone else got there, dieing horribly, then attempting some silly excuse after everyone cleaned up the mess and we rezed him...it was rather funny really

[Blank_Zero]

I really can't remember wiz or sorc... all I do remember is him running into area, ticking everything off before anyone else got there, dieing horribly, then attempting some silly excuse after everyone cleaned up the mess and we rezed him...it was rather funny really

Why did you res him?

[MaxwellEdison]

Why did you res him?

it was rather funny really

And there's your answer.

[Aurora_nyx]

I only did it once... the others kept taking him back to the shrine as he'd say "really sorry guys, idk why I can't cast thru *insert random attack*"

not healing stupid is what got me challenged to the pvp match

[Khybes_Theo]

not healing stupid is what got me challenged to the pvp match

You can't heal "Stupid". Stupid is a frame of mind.... and no amount of healing can fix that.