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    Default Heals/cc ...

    Ive been inspired after hearing of some great bardic play on Cannith.

    Interested to hear if this is a resonable build for heals/CC. I know this ones songs havent been given the love I would like to give them but only so many Ap's eh.

    Welcome feedback/critical dismantlement ...


    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (20 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 262
    Spell Points: 1075 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 10
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 22
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             12                    14
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         16                    18
    Intelligence         10                    12
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             18                    31
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    22
    Bluff                 4                    10
    Concentration         7                    33
    Diplomacy             4                    29
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                4                    11
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  3                    22
    Intimidate            4                    10
    Jump                  5                    20
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         2                    22
    Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
    Perform               8                    33
    Repair                0                     1
    Search                0                     1
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  1                     2
    Tumble                0                     1
    Use Magic Device      8                    37
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Force of Personality
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration II
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy View Post
    Who wouldn't want to see Flizik the dwarf jamming to 'Devil went down to georgia' and smoking a pipe ...

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    Drop FOP for greater spell focus.

    Personally I'd drop int to 8 and lose a skill, but each to their own.

    absolutely fit inspired damage 3, and attack 3 for epics (maybe 2 if you are running general content).

    People want/need a bard for the songs - max the effects of those, and then build from there.
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    Kia ora BoBoDaClown

    tx for your feedback - even managed to get another 20 HP into the mix.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (20 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 282
    Spell Points: 1075 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence          8                    10
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             18                    30
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    23
    Bluff                 4                    10
    Concentration         7                    34
    Diplomacy             8                    33
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                4                    28
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                 -1                     0
    Intimidate            4                    10
    Jump                  6                    20
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently        -1                     0
    Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
    Perform               8                    33
    Repair               -1                     0
    Search               -1                     0
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  2                     3
    Tumble               n/a                    1
    Use Magic Device      8                    37
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    Last edited by NovaNZ; 07-11-2011 at 12:31 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy View Post
    Who wouldn't want to see Flizik the dwarf jamming to 'Devil went down to georgia' and smoking a pipe ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaNZ View Post
    Kia ora BoBoDaClown

    tx for your feedback - even managed to get another 20 HP into the mix.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (20 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 282
    Spell Points: 1075 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence          8                    10
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             18                    30
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    23
    Bluff                 4                    10
    Concentration         7                    34
    Diplomacy             8                    33
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                4                    28
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                 -1                     0
    Intimidate            4                    10
    Jump                  6                    20
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently        -1                     0
    Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
    Perform               8                    33
    Repair               -1                     0
    Search               -1                     0
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  2                     3
    Tumble               n/a                    1
    Use Magic Device      8                    37
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    Ka pai

    I like it - just a word of warning - bard CC is considered a bit lacklustre at the moment for epic quests.

    But you can still find use/enjoyment out of the build you have posted. And you can always respec at 20 if you really want to.
    Last edited by BoBoDaClown; 07-11-2011 at 01:40 AM.
    Server: Thelanis
    Guild: Fallen Immortals
    Toons: Soza, Sozz, Sozza, Sossa (bards)

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    Default Dwarf Spellsinger

    Tau mai, haere mai BoBo ...

    I luv the stocky little buggers ....

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male
    (20 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 302
    Spell Points: 1046 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 12
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         18                    22
    Intelligence          8                    10
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             16                    28
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               1                    27
    Bluff                 3                     9
    Concentration         8                    35
    Diplomacy             5                    32
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                3                     9
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                 -1                     0
    Intimidate            3                     9
    Jump                  6                    15
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently        -1                     0
    Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
    Perform               7                    32
    Repair               -1                     0
    Search               -1                     2
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  2                     3
    Tumble               n/a                    1
    Use Magic Device      7                    36
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration II
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    Any thoughts / suggestions?
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy View Post
    Who wouldn't want to see Flizik the dwarf jamming to 'Devil went down to georgia' and smoking a pipe ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaNZ View Post
    Tau mai, haere mai BoBo ...

    I luv the stocky little buggers ....

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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    Level 20 True Neutral Dwarf Male
    (20 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 302
    Spell Points: 1046 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 12
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity             8                    10
    Constitution         18                    22
    Intelligence          8                    10
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             16                    28
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               1                    27
    Bluff                 3                     9
    Concentration         8                    35
    Diplomacy             5                    32
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                3                     9
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                 -1                     0
    Intimidate            3                     9
    Jump                  6                    15
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently        -1                     0
    Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
    Perform               7                    32
    Repair               -1                     0
    Search               -1                     2
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  2                     3
    Tumble               n/a                    1
    Use Magic Device      7                    36
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration II
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    Any thoughts / suggestions?
    Not such a fan due to the missing feat and -3cha - if you want to go the caster route.

    If you want to go more dps/healing (with resulting feat changes/stat changes) then dwarf could be a worthy choice.
    Server: Thelanis
    Guild: Fallen Immortals
    Toons: Soza, Sozz, Sozza, Sossa (bards)

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