Petition: Remove Rare and Raid Loot From Crafting Requirements

[Gauthaag]

/signed

i am definitely ****ed off. so if i understand it well, i ve made my high lvl crafter only to be forced to run every raid for loot i dont need, only to be able to use my high crafting level?

whats the idea of using BtC loot to make unbound shards?

And i dont really take the argument crafting shouldnt produce stronger items than named ones, cause it devaluete them. imho getting those named ones takes as much effort or less than get crafting to top levels.
most of raid items or named loot have nice abilities on unusual spot and thats one of things that make them cool which u never get on crafted items. there are some unique powers which made it to crafting list, let make those expensive and hard to obtain but greater banes that can drop on any random loot? why?

i wasnot complaining bout crafting system till now, as imho it was nice addition, but with this one change it seems definitelly dead for me

[Tyrsis]

/signed

[barryman5000]

/signed

[JOTMON]

Shroud mats - No, are supposed to be unique to Greensteel.( maybe alllow deconstruction to base materials)
Epic Tokens - No, they are for epic crafting and epic stuff, unless you are adding epic slots to this crafting
ToD Boot mats - No they are boot ingredients.
Rare Raid Items and Tomes - No, no named items should be part of crafting uniess it is to make that item epic.

Dont screw up the crafting direction by trying to incorporate named items or ingredients unique to other items.

[cave_diver]

/signed

[Atenhotep]

/signed

[FastTaco]

Terrible Idea...

If this goes through, the only reason I will be in the crafting hall anymore more is for the convenient AH/Mailbox/Bank



... Hang on, let me check if I need this rare BtC raid item to craft...

[sirgog]

/signed.

Large Arrows, Bones, Chains and Horns - I'm OK with that. If and only if the items made with the shard are designed for level 17+ characters.
Epic Tokens - Fine, as long as the item warrants it. I'd have no trouble with a EDT/ERT requirement for, say, a +4 to-hit trinket, or for a hypothetical recipe that let you create a non-boot item with Anchoring.
Small numbers of very special collectables (White Dragon Scales, etc) - maybe.



But unbound popular items like Large Scales or Spectral Gloves - talk about taking those items out of the reach of more casual players forever.

And BtC items - even unpopular ones - would destroy the community.

I pity a guildie that has two Shards of the Chaosblade, two scrolls, one of their two seals, and no base items yet. Hopefully they can get their epic versions made before this goes live (even for a week) and raid loot is never given away again.



It's time to cancel 10.1. Don't let this community killer be active for even a week.

[SilentAssassin82]

/signed

[Morlen]

/signed. Plus a big WHA? to who thought this was a good idea? Apart from being able to craft fun lowbie weapons for characters, I viewed Cannith crafting as an opportunity for the FtP crowd to have good gear without surpassing raid loot while still not having all of the additional quest packs to get said raid gear.

[Steiner-Davion]

/Signed.

This is so laughable it is not funny.

Can I have some of the Cool Aid please?

[slimkj]

Yep, also agreed. The harm to raid loot rolling and the act it represents would be a horrible change to the nature and spirit of the community and people's interactions. To release 10.1 like this and later retract would be a mistake.

[EatSmart]

I'll go one further and say fire the person who came up with the change, and fire their line manager who should have spotted the glaring mistakes. This shouldnt even have made it to a lammania release.

[sirgog]

Can we add Astral Diamonds and Dragon's Bloods to the 'no way' list?

I think I've seen 3 ADs pulled in the last year. How long would it take to find 5 Dragon's Bloods in order to craft a Greater Dragon Bane?

Requiring players to purchase items in order to craft shards that don't have a 100% success rate, just turned the crafting devices into slot machines.

Dragon's Bloods are pretty harmless - they drop in large quantities from encounters where you kill dragons.

Epic VON6 it seems 2 of them always drop. A full clear of the Tor drops them too, as does killing Aussiercaex and Aussiroth in Prey on the Huntard.



Edit: Rescind this. I forgot some people have crafting toons that are not capable of running these quests and Bloods are BtC. Hell, my crafter is in that boat, sitting at level 14 on a TR at the moment, not close to Tor flagged, and scheduled to be TRed almost immediately on hitting 20.

[Miztof]

/signed

Raid loot and store bought items should never be an essential and indispensable part of crafting.

[gloopygloop]

Dragon's Bloods are pretty harmless - they drop in large quantities from encounters where you kill dragons.

Epic VON6 it seems 2 of them always drop. A full clear of the Tor drops them too, as does killing Aussiercaex and Aussiroth in Prey on the Huntard.

The fact that you MUST kill those dragons on your crafting character kind of sucks, though. If your crafting character doesn't also happen to be your big ass-kicking, Epic thrashing, Reaver flagged, Abbot flagged, 400 Silver Flame favor having monstrosity, then you're kind of screwed.

[cdemeritt]

/signed...

After looking at the recipes.... I gotta ask what you are smoking...


tomes for Dragonshard fragments for deathblock? Not as bad as a chattering ring for Greater halfling bane, but still a bit much for a common effect.

Pathetic.... If this goes live, will I completely ignore this crafting from this point forth.... With many of the changes over the recent months already pushing me away from the game, I'm already having a hard enough time trying to log in....

Well, here's hoping you see the light... but not holding my breath.

[Maxallu]

This petition does not go far enough.

No shroud loot
No raid loot
No boot mats


/signed


Create new rare drops, don't suck up everything in my inventory.

New content drops are BTA, now raid loot is used in crafting, forget this. No one will pass anything ever again.

[redspecter23]

Dragon's Bloods are pretty harmless - they drop in large quantities from encounters where you kill dragons.

Epic VON6 it seems 2 of them always drop. A full clear of the Tor drops them too, as does killing Aussiercaex and Aussiroth in Prey on the Huntard.

It seems innocent enough, but if your crafter happens to be a monk (as mine is) then I'd consider it poor form to roll on a Blood of Dragons specifically for crafting. Heck, I'd have a moral objection to looting one that fell in my own name if one of my guildies needs it for redoing spells. And even if I was ok with it, it could get some shady looks from others in the party, then I have to hang my head low, ashamed of myself for looting it and say "I need that for crafting" And that's just on something like Blood of Dragons where it's not likely to cause any serious drama. I just don't want to be in the position where I feel the need to loot it on a monk to begin with.

[wemery73]

/Signed