Petition: Remove Rare and Raid Loot From Crafting Requirements

[Gkar]

They have already promised to change this, rejoice, they heard our voice!

[Arkat]

They have already promised to change this, rejoice, they heard our voice!

Lnk Plz

[Montoya]

signed

[Barashkukor]

Wow.. The absolute stupidity of this is awe-inspiringly stunning.

There is no facepalm pic massive enough to describe this properly.

/sighned

[FlyingTurtle]

This nonsense pretty much confirms that not only do the devs not play the game, they don't even log in from time to time to see what the heck goes on in there.

/signed

[Siftrant]

They have already promised to change this, rejoice, they heard our voice!

No. Floyd said pretty much the opposite of this. He stated the update is going to roll out AS IS -- without change; not altered, modified, transformed, mutated, or any other synonym.

[khaldan]

Lnk Plz

Whooops. We clearly were out of line with several of these ingredients. Including items like Dreamspitter and Chattering Ring is an embarrasing error on our part and was in no way intentional.

Our motivation to add these extra ingredients (which was only made to a subset of recipes that concerned us) was to preserve and not devalue the efforts made by players to obtain many of the existing powerful named items in the game.

We will make changes. Unfortunately, they will not be made in time to alter the upcoming patch. As you know, the system is still in beta and we will effect changes as soon as we can.

Our apologies and thanks for the swift, clear feedback.

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[Buggss]

Whooops. We clearly were out of line with several of these ingredients. Including items like Dreamspitter and Chattering Ring is an embarrasing error on our part and was in no way intentional.

Our motivation to add these extra ingredients (which was only made to a subset of recipes that concerned us) was to preserve and not devalue the efforts made by players to obtain many of the existing powerful named items in the game.

We will make changes. Unfortunately, they will not be made in time to alter the upcoming patch. As you know, the system is still in beta and we will effect changes as soon as we can.

Our apologies and thanks for the swift, clear feedback.

How ridiculous!!

Then with this quote and the obviously disgusted response from what I see as 100% of the posters here, the patch should be delayed full-stop, beta or not.

It's simply one of the least popular changes ever made so just...

DON'T RELEASE IT!

Easy....

[Cyr]

They have already promised to change this, rejoice, they heard our voice!

No they did not.

They stated that some recipes were out of line...ooops...and that it would go live as is and changes 'would be made' at some later time.

In fact, the basic premise of requiring named items for recipes clearly was by design and there was no indication that will be changed. Just that a few specific recipes might be changed.

[gloopygloop]

Whooops. We clearly were out of line with several of these ingredients. Including items like Dreamspitter and Chattering Ring is an embarrasing error on our part and was in no way intentional.

Our motivation to add these extra ingredients (which was only made to a subset of recipes that concerned us) was to preserve and not devalue the efforts made by players to obtain many of the existing powerful named items in the game.

We will make changes. Unfortunately, they will not be made in time to alter the upcoming patch. As you know, the system is still in beta and we will effect changes as soon as we can.

Our apologies and thanks for the swift, clear feedback.

I essentially read this as "We promise to fix the stupid decision as soon as we can conveniently get to it, but just don't craft any Bane weapons until that happens."

[cdbd3rd]

For someone who dosn't raid or live in epics....this change will kill crafting for me and the wife.

Just because we don't do raids or epic quests, it dosn't mean we don't like nice things.

Crafting was our way to get some nice bits of gear.

/Signed as often as I can

^^^ This full on. ^^^


...well, except for that whole wifey part. I'm kinda between those atm.


edit:

Whooops. ...

And now i'll remind myself again to finish reading a thread before replying - but the opinion still holds.


2nd edit:

I stopped at page 3, but I think this thread now holds the record for creating unity in the community - previously held by the infamous Offer Wall™ debacle.

[rest]

They have already promised to change this, rejoice, they heard our voice!

Not really.

[Sirea]

The crafting list up to level 100 is now on Lammania:

Muckbane for Greater Ooze Bane
Scorched Bracers for Fire Absorption 33%
Charged Gauntlets for Elec Absorption 33%
Coronation (Tome Page Turn-ins) for Greater Elf Bane
Various Threnal items for stuff
Golden Greaves for Greater Dwarf Bane
Sovereign Rune of Smiting for Greater Construct Bane
Spectral Gloves for Attack Bonus +4
Twinblade (Tome Page Turn-ins) for Greater Goblinoid Bane
Coronation (Tome Page Turn-ins) AND Boneshard Flute for Greater Undead Bane
Theurgic Staff for Greater elemental Bane
Large Devil Scale and Demon's Blood for Greater Evil Outsider Bane
Flawless Siberys Dragonshard and 5 Blood of Dragons for Greater Dragon Bane
Chaosblade for Vampirism

[Farzinz]

/signed

Ridiculous!

[Mindspat]

SOME pieces of raid loot may be relatively easy to acquire. Usually though it's because no one wants it if they get it and will give it to you.

Also, if these items become required for crafting...where are you going to store all of them? Mule toons (if the items are BtA) should not be required. There is no worthwhile reason I can see for requiring rare, bound, non-stacking items for crafting.

Very good point! Where and how to keep all this loot if it's intended to be used for crafting!?!

I like the idea of using raid loot, I just think the current results lack foresight. Raid loot in recipies should provide UNIQUE enhancements, not generic loot-table junk.

[cdbd3rd]

They have already promised to change this, rejoice, they heard our voice!

No they did not.....

Not really.

But we ain't near done talking yet.




..should be doing that talking over here, I guess:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=328046

[rest]

But we ain't near done talking yet.

Well they did tell us they wouldn't stop this mistake from going live, so they're not in any hurry to fix it. They're just halting the production of useful high level shards while they "fix" their "oopsie".

As I mentioned before, I need to get my craft on TONIGHT and hope I can hit level 90 so I can craft 50x of each of the useful shards I need before this abortion of an idea hits the servers.

[Bufo_Alvarius]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

Unbelievable!



Also /signed

[Kizara]

Agreed.

If you want **** like sword of the giant slave maker, that's a bit annoying but fine.

/signed

[Kalari]

Well they did tell us they wouldn't stop this mistake from going live, so they're not in any hurry to fix it. They're just halting the production of useful high level shards while they "fix" their "oopsie".

As I mentioned before, I need to get my craft on TONIGHT and hope I can hit level 90 so I can craft 50x of each of the useful shards I need before this abortion of an idea hits the servers.

Yeah so much for our epic runs tonight not happening Nyxy will be in the crafting halls getting her shards done.