Feedback - Crafting - Update 10, Patch 1

[Scraap]

Stupid question. Is this for all shards or only unbound shards?

I can almost see the need for something like this for unbound shards, but not for bound ones.

Haven't even looked at unbound yet... lets see...

[TPICKRELL]

Alternate conspiracy theory 1...The economy has stabilized. Frantic crafting leveling has pulled enough plat out of the economy to nearly revert the cove plat fiasco... so they are putting the plat sink on emergency hold via extraordinary measures.

Alternate conspiracy theory 2...The brokers have grown tired of looking at empty shelves and have somehow harnessed all the new XORIAT powers to mind wipe the devs.

I vote for #2. The devs are now in straight jackets and padded rooms in the Sane Asylum. And Nurse Rachet is calling the shots.

[Chette]

Yup, even releasing this to the test server as a putting the toe in the water really hurt the game.

People will hoard items based upon the likely hood of future need...I mean we have how many collectibles that had basically zero real use for years and people kept those...

After the first epic loot pass it is alot more common for people to hold onto shards/seals instead of putting them up for roll because everything in epic is seen to be in flux.

Absolutely. About a year ago a friend of mine told me about how he was keeping all of his collectibles in case they ever became useful. I called him a crazy hoarder. I was wrong. Then I heard about people keeping named useless items in case they every became useful, or the pack went epic. I still though this was a bit crazy, but it did make me think twice before vendoring my named trash from gianthold. Now this.

Devs, you have irreversible changed DDO for the worse with this system. The sooner you reverse this, the less damage there will be.

[Maxelcat]

couldn't See Past 75 This End. Still Reviewing...

Purified Eberron Dragonshard Fragments?

Arcane
Tasty Ham For Animal Bane,
Spiderspike For Vermin Bane,
Guardkiller For Human Bane,
Giant Stalkers For Giant Bane

Divine
Medium Sulferous For Lawful Ousider Bane,
Prysuuls Bane For Chaotic Outsider Bane
Stormreaver Fresco For Construct Bane
Minotaut Hair Belt For Monstrous Humanoid Bane
Rusted Shamshir For Aberration Bane
Zulkash's Bone Necklace For Orc Bane
Blue Dragon Scales For Dragon Bane
Ring Of Elemental Essences And Spiked Mace Of The Elements For Elemental Bane
Medium Chain And Medium Devil Scales For Evil Outsider Bane
Margurites Necklace For Undead Bane
Silver Flame Healing Potion For Holy Burst
Dreamspitter For Greater Lawful Outsider Bane
Razorend For Greater Magical Beast Bane
Demons Blood And Tyrzza's Bane For Greater Chaotic Outsider Bane

Elemental
Zaraming's Longbow For Halfling Bane
Sword Of The Giant Slavemaster For Elf Bane
Moog's Ornament For Reptillian Bane
Daggertooth's Belt For Gnoll Bane
Fist Of Darguul For Goblinoid Bane
Zaraming's Longbow For Dwarf Bane
Chattering Ring For Greater Halfling Bane
Mystical Plant For Greater Plant Bane

I'm... Going To Leave That There, And Take A Few Minutes...

In The Mean Time, I Would Ask If You Really, Truly Want An Honest Response.

Do Not Want!

[Cyr]

I think it important that people not meekly go along with some half way retraction of this nonsense.

Selling loot in the DDO store is not a good thing and that is the entire intention of the 'purified' shard. Having raid loot or otherwise rare lower level loot as part of recipes is not a good idea for a multitude of reasons.

All of this garbage needs to be rejected. No barganing in the hopes of having the game ruined just a little less with each new update.

[Bilger]

Seriously this is not right it has to be a joke right?

I just started getting a lil serious with crafting and getting it to a decent lvl. If this goes live bah done crafting and grats to those who got those coveted banes before turbine screwed crafting all together.

Not going to touch crafting again until see if turbine implements this.

If do done with it not going to touch it again.

Now I can see using these items in replacement of certain ingredients but making it required to craft having raid loot is total BS and needs a better look at I don't see anyone liking this idea so far . If they do then there in minority.

One of worst ideas yet turbine need a rethink here.

[GotSomeQuestions]

Haven't even looked at unbound yet... lets see...

It goes up to 30 on the current Lamma build, none of the affected shards even show up (no regular banes, much less greaters).

[Cordovan]

Please continue to provide your feedback on this and other changes, but personal attacks against developers will not be tolerated. Make sure to post your feedback in-line with the forum guidelines.

[Montoya]

I've invested heavily in crafting and this makes it worthless imho.
Brutal.

[Kourier]

I'm glad to see my decision to start vendoring trash again was well justified.

[Ironforge_Clan]

Seriously this is not right it has to be a joke right?

I just started getting a lil serious with crafting and getting it to a decent lvl. If this goes live bah done crafting and grats to those who got those coveted banes before turbine screwed crafting all together.

Not going to touch crafting again until see if turbine implements this.

If do done with it not going to touch it again.

Now I can see using these items in replacement of certain ingredients but making it required to craft having raid loot is total BS and needs a better look at I don't see anyone liking this idea so far . If they do then there in minority.

One of worst ideas yet turbine need a rethink here.

Completely and utterly quoted for truth!

[grodon9999]

Please continue to provide your feedback on this and other changes, but personal attacks against developers will not be tolerated. Make sure to post your feedback in-line with the forum guidelines.

You should expect quite a passionate response from changes this ridiculous. You should also expect a hit to your bottom line if these changes go through.

[Memnir]

Just when I was thinking Crafting was nearing a state of being worthwhile enough to invest my time in...

Purified eberron dragonshard fragments?

arcane
tasty ham for animal bane,
spiderspike for vermin bane,
guardkiller for human bane,
giant stalkers for giant bane

divine
medium sulferous for lawful ousider bane,
prysuuls bane for chaotic outsider bane
stormreaver fresco for construct bane
minotaut hair belt for monstrous humanoid bane
rusted shamshir for aberration bane
zulkash's bone necklace for orc bane
blue dragon scales for dragon bane
ring of elemental essences AND spiked mace of the elements for elemental bane
medium chain AND medium devil scales for evil outsider bane
margurites necklace for undead bane
silver flame healing potion for holy burst
dreamspitter for greater lawful outsider bane
razorend for greater magical beast bane
demons blood AND tyrzza's bane for greater chaotic outsider bane

elemental
zaraming's longbow for halfling bane
sword of the giant slavemaster for elf bane
moog's ornament for reptillian bane
daggertooth's belt for gnoll bane
fist of darguul for goblinoid bane
zaraming's longbow for dwarf bane
chattering ring for greater halfling bane
mystical plant for greater plant bane

...this comes along and reconfirms my notion that crafting is nothing but a complete waste of my time and efforts. To be avoided at all costs, in fact.

Rather egregious changes, and that's from somebody who isn't invested in the Crafting what so ever. I really sympathize with those who have put their time and effort into Crafting, because this must feel like a stab in the back.

[Ironforge_Clan]

Please continue to provide your feedback on this and other changes, but personal attacks against developers will not be tolerated. Make sure to post your feedback in-line with the forum guidelines.

With all due respect the comments are justified 100%. The proposed changes truly do indicate that the people coming up with these ideas have absolutely no understanding of the game and the people that play it.

[BangsLiekWhoa]

When I saw that Cordovan had replied, I thought "good! a dev here to say it is all a bad joke or a troll." Then I got in and saw his post...

Please continue to provide your feedback on this and other changes, but personal attacks against developers will not be tolerated. Make sure to post your feedback in-line with the forum guidelines.

I was greatly saddened.

This will, as many others have said, destroy the act of passing/putting up for roll raid loot and tomes that people don't need so that newer/less fortunate characters can have nice things too. Out with any sense of community and in with pure senseless greed. Totally unnecessary.

[Chette]

When I saw that Cordovan had replied, I thought "good! a dev here to say it is all a bad joke or a troll." Then I got in and saw his post...

I was greatly saddened.

This will, as many others have said, destroy the act of passing/putting up for roll raid loot and tomes that people don't need so that newer/less fortunate characters can have nice things too. Out with any sense of community and in with pure senseless greed. Totally unnecessary.

As somebody who was once passed a +3 Con tome by this gentleman, I echo his sentiments!

[Dilbon]

Maybe this means that Chattering Rings will now drop more often.

Or not.

[BangsLiekWhoa]

Maybe this means that Chattering Rings will now drop more often.

Or not.

Yeah, but if nobody will put them up for roll, what is the difference?

[Chette]

Maybe this means that Chattering Rings will now drop more often.

Or not.

My guess is that they'll drop twice as often and be looted instead of put up for roll by 12 times as many people

[dingal]

Couldn't see past 75 this end. still reviewing...

Purified eberron dragonshard fragments?

arcane
tasty ham for animal bane,
spiderspike for vermin bane,
guardkiller for human bane,
giant stalkers for giant bane

divine
medium sulferous for lawful ousider bane,
prysuuls bane for chaotic outsider bane
stormreaver fresco for construct bane
minotaut hair belt for monstrous humanoid bane
rusted shamshir for aberration bane
zulkash's bone necklace for orc bane
blue dragon scales for dragon bane
ring of elemental essences AND spiked mace of the elements for elemental bane
medium chain AND medium devil scales for evil outsider bane
margurites necklace for undead bane
silver flame healing potion for holy burst
dreamspitter for greater lawful outsider bane
razorend for greater magical beast bane
demons blood AND tyrzza's bane for greater chaotic outsider bane

elemental
zaraming's longbow for halfling bane
sword of the giant slavemaster for elf bane
moog's ornament for reptillian bane
daggertooth's belt for gnoll bane
fist of darguul for goblinoid bane
zaraming's longbow for dwarf bane
chattering ring for greater halfling bane
mystical plant for greater plant bane

I'm... going to leave that there, and take a few minutes...

In the mean time, I would ask if you really, truly want an honest response.

I just checked the date to be certain and I can assure everyone it is not April 1st.

This has got to be a joke.

*reads on*