Feedback - Crafting - Update 10, Patch 1

[akiraproject24]

chattering ring for greater halfling bane.....


Oh my god! this is awesome!!! I always wanted a greater halfling bane weapon but they are so hard to find and are never in the Deneith weapon broker. Now all I have to do is farm the titan raid 80-90 times to get a ring and then I can make this! Thanks Turbine you guys rock and roll all night long sweet suzy.!!!!

[theboyftw]

back to crafting with recipe 5...not wasting any more plat on this mess.

[barryman5000]

DO NOT LET THIS PATCH GO LIVE.

This. Incredibly ********.

[Postumus]

This is insane.

Think i'll just go to bed. Maybe in the morning i'll have something constructive to post. If i post what i think now i'll probably get myself baned.

Not without a Chattering Ring and astral diamonds!

[thenalim]

My foresight was dead on target with this nonsence.

You think there is loot drama now? Wait till fighters are looting torqs to craft.

This.
Really this is the daftest pile of manure that has been thought of during the two years I've been here.

[Yalann]

I can't believe this is even being considered. The notion that someone actually associated raid loot and RARE items to crafting ingredients astounds me. I don't think there is a better example of Turbine being out of touch with the playerbase. A chattering ring to craft halfling bane? People have to beg friends and owe favors to get one to actually use and it is being used to craft halfling bane? For what? To PvP with? I was actually planning to buy more points for future content but I'm glad I haven't spent it yet.

[Chai]

Ahhh, the WoP-nerf-esque change to the game for 2011 finally arrived. Popcorn shop is open peeps, come git some.

[LordArkan]

But what happens when someone says "Oops, didn't mean to kick you in the crotch there! I take that back. I will, however, in all likelyhood keep repeatedly slapping you in the face."?

More like "Sorry for kicking you in the crotch, I was aiming for your gut!"

[Bracosius]

In case it wasn't clear by the rest of the posts, just figured I would add;

This is a bad idea, 10.1 should be not go live.

[Lost_Leader]

<snip>
Raidloot as a ingredient is obvious-bad. I don't think that needs rehashing.

HOWEVER, a lot of people seem to be glossing over the "lesser" new costs. Astral Diamonds, Epic Tokens, Tomes, Shroud Ingredients... <snip>

This point needs to be brought out more, too.

They make some truly obnoxious, outlandish changes, then get rid of those so that people will accept these.

As a person who plays a lot, I can afford Epic Tokens, Shroud Ingredients, even Tomes, but the trade-off is meh. As Kalari pointed out in a previous post, someone who has the resources to to make this stuff, isn't going to waste the time to gather those items just to crunch them on niche crafted stuff.

I will continue to use the crafting for low level items, to make convenience gear while I am TR'ing.

I may use it to fill niche weapon slots, I have made a couple of nice DR bypassers and portal beaters, but not at the exorbitant currently slated. I have epic gear and greensteel that works just as well.

For those who don't have the Epic Gear and Raid Loot, will they use Cannith? To my guildies I will recommend they focus on raiding and epics and not high level cannith, as they will get much better loot for time invested. And whoever thought I'd say that about epics, which are a ridiculous time sink getting scroll-seal-shard. Especially Desert. Bleh.

Not to mention they are making cannith crafting take real cash. So now you have to buy all the packs to get all the ingredients, farm them like crazy to get the rare named items (which you are just going to use as ingredients), then drop some extra cash on some astral diamonds so you can craft a few nice greater banes. Sweet, now you can go do a ToD with your new weapons... oh wait, you used your boot ingredients to make your weapons, get back out there and grind again.

So after all that, why weren't you just making boots, running raids and epics? You'd have better gear by now. Oh, and your wallet wouldn't be quite so thin, either.

[LordTigerDawn]

Get your chattering ring today...

Unpublished change not announced...

All mobs are changed to halflings, all players are changed to halflings, all devs are left as kobolds.

[Will_Ferrer]

I will add my text to this wall of ...DO NOT LET THIS GO LIVE!!!...

[lopkon]

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Just tried to be constructive and sure this is a matter of opinion you don't have to like it. I probably missed a sarcasm check on mentioned red text, but well this game is serious business(!) so sarcasm is inappropriate anyway.

[Boromirs]

STOP!

THIS CHANGE MAY -ACTUALLY- BE A GOOD IDEA.

I think people need to stop reacting and think things through. This change to high level crafting may actually 1.) add usefulness to some pointless raid items. 2.) Make it so people who DO NOT craft but DO RAID trade their "raid ingredients" for cool crafting weapons. 3.) Provide added level of buffering so people don't churn out +5 greater banes like ice cream.

Think about it. Sure, it'll make things harder...but isn't that the point.

Some further suggestions.

+I recommend that a SPECTRUM of RAID gear be used in crafting (because not everyone has access to ALL the raid gear (namely casual players who don't own all the packs)

+Make raid gear tradeable FOR CRAFTING ONLY. So, all raid gear is bound to something... but with crafting the person with the item can put it in the crafting device FOR the OTHER player.

[Varr]

Honeslty it is becoming a burden unloading all my raid lootz every TR. Will be good to convert 40 or 50 of them into something useful like shards. Easy to carry, load in bag. I dont have mulitiple of any though, guess this will fix all the your loot is your loot threads too. No more rolling..........just take it or sell to highest bidder for shard possibility.

Perfect way to fix that nagging good will the community tries to produce.......Out with the roll offs for loot once and for all! Take it and break it down, or sell it for Twin blades to break down! Solid.

[Dandonk]

This point needs to be brought out more, too.

They make some truly obnoxious, outlandish changes, then get rid of those so that people will accept these.

This. So very much this.

They did it with the TWF nerf, and now they're pulling this trick again. Don't let them get away with it... again...

[Postumus]

But what happens when someone says "Oops, didn't mean to kick you in the crotch there! I take that back. I will, however, in all likelyhood keep repeatedly slapping you in the face."?

I'd use one hand to protect my face, and the other hand to keep protecting my crotch in case they 'accidentally' did it again.

[Lycurgus]

I would like to see an invisibility guard shard which requires as an ingredient the epic Mabar cloak. kkomg, lolthx!

[Jastron]

This patch needs to change, and if not, there can be no exception to it being pulled/removed/delayed until it can. There is no urgent need for the patch other than the poor folks who can't obtain the L85 airship, and I think even they would rather wait then to deal with this game changing patch.

Although I have spent millions of plat on crafting and have hit level 60 in it, it was declared to be in beta so that was at my risk. In addition, having been playing since headstart I have acquired a good bit of raid loot already, including one (but only one) chattering ring. So reduced raid loot availability and inability to craft high level items won't make me leave the game immediately. I don't even have any bane weapon crafting plans just yet, I was more levelling to be my Guild's crafter and have already started making them low level items.

HOWEVER, what this patch will have the potential to do, is to make other folks who are more in need of raid loot, more in need of crafting to help them along with gear, to consider leaving DDO. That then reduces guild rosters, reduces LFM's, and more may leave, including me if by a real longshot my guild evaporates due to side effects from this patch. This is a snowball effect and I'd rather not think of what it would be like a year down the road. And it isn't even my income being threatened here, it's yours, Turbine, but I am worried nonetheless.

Scrap the patch please, or undo ALL of the crafting changes if you love DDO as much as we love it. Everyone makes mistakes every now and then, acknowledge this was an error, fix it quickly before it goes live (as once it goes live EVERYONE will see it not just us forumites) and move on.

Thank you.

[Postumus]

then drop some extra cash on some astral diamonds so you can HAVE A CHANCE to craft a few nice greater banes.

(fixed that)

Cannith Crafting Device, the new One Armed Bandit!