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    Default First Cleric Advice on Build Idea

    Not really a build, but a thought really. I'm thinking of building a 19Cleric/1Bard, but having played neither before would appreciate some advice.

    First let me explain why 19/1 Cleric Bard. The Bard's there for max UMD, couple spell points from CHA, and the only Bard spell taken is Master's Touch. Bard would be 1st level. Cleric 19 is for, well just cause. It is an extra 9th level spell I believe. I'm not married to that 19th Cleric level though.

    It'd be a human 32pt vet build and a set of +2 tomes at level 7. Stat wise it's looking like

    14 STR
    8 Dex
    15 CON
    10 INT
    17 WIS +2tome +5 level +1 Human +3 Cleric Enhancement = 28 + Gear/Buffs
    11 CHA +2 tome + 2 Cleric Enhancment + 1 Human = 16 + Gear/Buffs

    I guess a second level of Bard could give me Bard enhancement to CHA letting me move the Human Enhancement to CON.

    Skills are easy: Maxed UMD, 22 ranks in Concentration (to get an even on Balance), rest in Balance.

    Feats look like: Toughness, SF UMD, Empower Healing, Maximize, Quicken, Spell Focus Evo, Greater Spell Focus Evo, and Spell Pen.

    My issue is the enhancements though. I like the idea of Wand and Scroll Mastery. I like Human Versatility, but really it's only for UMD at this point. Improved Recovery is nice, but it's a healer. Cleric WIS III, Cleric CHA II, Human WIS and CHA.

    Aside from that. Life Magic maxed I think. Smiting Maxed too? How about the Prayers? Anything obvious I'm not seeing as why this would fail?

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    just throwing some general options out for ya...

    Are you married to master's Touch ? The extra SP from CHA is OK. Cleric offers CHA enhancements and AFAIK, if you'd take the bard one, the cleric line will be locked out. If you're not dead-set on 19 cleric, Monk 2 probably adds more synergy with 2 combat feats, evasion, and WIS to AC ( if you decide to grind for AC ). If you don't wanna go that deep splashing then Fighter 1 would give you the weapon proficiencies, an extra Feat, Toughness I Enhancement and Haste Boost ( IMHO more bang for the buck ) and the option of another fighter level (2) for yet another feat and a STR+1 Enhancement. If you wanna splash really deep 17cleric/2monk/1fighter is what I'm leveling now, but be prepared for the "battle-cleric" angst. There's also the Rogue 2 splash that adds haste boost, 1d6+3 sneak attack, evasion, and the potential for UMD, locks and traps with the proper INT stat point dedication.

    Edit: according to your Stat's you're going full caster...and melee perks would be ignored...if you need the extra feats, then by all means splash...but for pure builds right now unfortunately FvS AoV offers better spellcasting AND survivability potential then clerics....and I love my cleric, so that's hard for me to admit.
    Last edited by ShadowFlash; 07-07-2011 at 02:52 AM.

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