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    Default Where do you slot your GS HP item...

    Rogues - help me out. I just capped my first toon, human pure rogue assassin, and am working on the mats for my GS HP item. My question is, where do I slot it with end-game gear in mind? I was thinking smoke cloak, but right now that's got resistance +4, which I'm not sure where else I can slot.

    Current setup -

    Head: Minos Legens
    Neck: Health +6 Necklace of blah blah
    Trink: The Blood Stone
    Cloak: Stormsinger cloak (+4 resistance/sonic guard)
    Belt: Proof against poison belt of greater false life
    Ring: Feather Falling ring of persuasion (UMD/FF)
    Ring: Clever +6 ring of blah blah
    Hands: Charged Gauntlets (switch to spectral gloves for ethereal mobs)
    Feet: Madstone boots (switch to dustless boots when sneak is critical)
    Wrist: Ogre Power +6 bracers of blah blah
    Body: DT Vestments (deathblock, healing amp 20%, rad guard)
    Eyes: Blindness ward goggles of battle skill (reserved for tharnes eventually/hopefully)

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, I really don't want to go through the collection process for mats more than once on this one.

    Thanks.

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    Setup I will be using for my rogue next life. While leveling mostly, and what I'll use fully pimped out.

    Tharne's Goggles
    Minos Legens
    Shintao Cord
    Bloodstone
    Triple Earth HP Cloak
    Awanahu's Sash /w +20% amp
    Whisper's Ring
    Spectral Gloves
    Madstone Boots
    Kyosho's Ring /w +2 Str
    Statbracers +6str prolly.
    DT Robe with Radiance Guard

    What I'll be using pimped out.

    Tharne's Goggles
    Epic Red Dragonscale Helm /w GFL
    Shintao Cord
    Bloodstone/Litany
    Rad2 HP Cloak
    Awanahu's Sash /w +20% amp
    Whisper's Ring
    Epic Gloves of the Claw
    Madstone Boots/Gyroscopic Boots of Striding (Depending on solo or not.)
    Kyosho's Ring /w +2 STR
    Epic Bracers of the Claw
    Epic Red Dragonscale Robe /w Toughness + 6int.


    Thinking about taking Epic Envenomed Cloak /w GFL instead of the HP Rad2 and replacing the helm slot for that Rad2.

    But we'll see.

    Hope this helped.
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    Made a cloak... but then got replaced it. Made a helm... then replaced it.

    Currently, it's like this:

    Head: Event hat with +6 seeker, +15 balance
    Neck: ToD Monk Neck and Swap item (GS INT skill, GS Cha skill, Silver flame, etc.)
    Body - Epic Vulkoors w/ Heavy Fort
    Gloves - Epic Brawling Gloves
    Back - Epic Silver Concord
    Bracers - GS HP Item
    Feet - Madstone/Anchoring/etc
    Trinket - Event Trinket/Head of Good Fortune/etc
    Belt - ToD FB Belt
    Ring 1 - Encrusted
    Ring 2 - Monk

    Some of my other toons have it on the helm, if they put toughness on their armor or on their back.
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    You can always slot your STR into a ring, especially since Intelligence on a rogue is situational just for +3 trap skills. You just have to equip the ring every time you work on traps. Then you have a wide open bracer slot.
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    I gotta recommend KingOfCheese's rogue - he's the most balanced and DPS capable rogue build I've seen.
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    Usual slot for GS hp item is cloak or, like for me, bracers.

    Goggles: Tharnes / Epic Kundarak Delving Goggles (swap)
    Helm: Epic Helm of Frost w/ GFL
    Necklace: Veriks Necky
    Trinket: Bloodstone
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak w/ Toughness
    Belt: Ravager Belt
    Ring: Ravager Ring w/ +2 STR
    Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets w/ Disease Immunity / Seven Fingered Gloves (swap)
    Boots: Madstones / Epic Boots of Corrosion w/ +6 DEX and GL
    Bracers: 45hp Triple Air GS
    Armor: DT: Heavy fort / Heal amp 20% / Radiance
    Heavy fort / Heal amp 20% / Tharnes
    Heavy fort / Corrosive Salt / Tharnes
    Ring: Epic Ring of Bucaneer / Rakhir's Ring w/ +2 INT / Ring of Lies / Verik w/ +2 CON

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    Quote Originally Posted by WangChi View Post
    Rogues - help me out. I just capped my first toon, human pure rogue assassin, and am working on the mats for my GS HP item. My question is, where do I slot it with end-game gear in mind? I was thinking smoke cloak, but right now that's got resistance +4, which I'm not sure where else I can slot.
    I like goggles slot for most melees, since when you need the extra SA damage you often don't need the extra HP. For rogues its a little different, though; I'm partial to cloak or boots. Boots is more for hotswaps though, and cloak can be taken by Epic Envenomed Cloak.

    For the neck, belt, and ring slots, you'll not want to hold off on filling them since you get a lot of good items there from Tower of Despair; unless you know you don't want, say, a necklace, from Tod, those are probably off limits. Hands and wrist will probably slot the high DPS weapons from red fens or chrono. Helm is probably going to be the epic Red or a pirate hat, So it's down to boots, cloak, or goggles, imo.

    For the actual item itself, Triple Earth is pretty cheap, and you get a good end-game summon, +45 hp, +6 extra concentration for your UMDing, and a proc that earthgrabs the enemy like an earth elemental does, for only 2 scales, 2 stones. I suppose perma blur and some displace are nice from smoke, but you should have some good UMD should you not?
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    My 20 assassin uses the Epic utility vest (not hard to get)+15 to disable and open etc. , Epic Spy glass +20 to spot and search etc. (easy to get if the event comes back). Also tripple neg Green steel boots for all the immunities. I dont have a hp item but have 400 hps so never thought of making one. Maybe you could make a partial hp item and lose the first tier for a +6 to one of your stats, that way you double up on a slot and only do not gain 10 hps. I agree with TheDjinnFor that TOD does have really nice sets you might want to try for so i would save your 2 ring, belt and neck slots.

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    I'd recommend cloak or helm, as they're fewer pieces of raid loot and epic items that you might ultimately want in those slots. Since you just capped you'll probably be using that Minos for a good while to come, so I would recommend cloak. As for your resistance bonus, maybe pick up a Resistance +4 ring of the AH for now and wear it instead of your Clever +4 ring when you're not doing traps or assassinating your enemies. You might also slot +5 resistance on your Dragon Touched armor rather than deathblock, unless you're soloing quite a bit, you shouldn't need a permanent deathblock item. I believe most players will just swap on a Silver Flame necklace when they need deathblock.

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    Currently, my rogue has Radiance II braciers. Tharnes is better on a goggle/dragontouched armor setup rather than trying to slot those stupid braciers.

    Edit: Try soloing Monastery with stealth. You’ll find that Eldrich/Tempest runes are pretty easy to acquire on a rogue and the fluidity of those slots is way better than any current epic armors.
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    Cloak atm. Will be reallocated in order to make place for the Epic Envenomed Cloak
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    had on cloak with earthgrab

    made rad2 on bracers to clear space for envenomed
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    Quote Originally Posted by nerdychaz View Post
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    Air/Air/Air haste guard
    This.
    Cloak is reserved for (Epic) Mabar Cloak at the momement. As I am using Minos at the moment, I could craft a Min2 helmet and slot Toughness somewhere, if I need the Bracers slot for any reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenBuddha View Post
    I gotta recommend KingOfCheese's rogue - he's the most balanced and DPS capable rogue build I've seen.
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=309669
    i must agree, he is the most amazing rogue ive ever seen. i almost changed servers when i saw that post. although, while sockpuppet's layout is something to aspire towards, it might be a little overboard for someone with their first capped toon

    with my own rogue, i went with the air bracers. but i fully expect that im going to change those later. but not for at least one more life
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    I keep changing the slot of my HP item, I don't know where to place it, :P

    I have 25 hp displacement bracers, 25hp haste cloak and a radiance belt. I usually run with the belt because I don't have ravager's set yet.
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    Default Thanks for the replies...

    I'm actually pretty surprised at the number of different slots used, really speaks to the variety and playability of DDO.

    Regarding the mighty Sockpuppet - I built my rogue using his build as a guide (I went human with more balanced stats instead of halfling though), and I gotta say, I love EVERYTHING about it, fantastic build. The pure utility of a rogue that can do that much overwhelming DPS, handle every trap and lock, and throw heal/raise scrolls around when needed is awesome.

    Thanks for the advice rogues!

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    min II bracers. also have smokeII cloak, but i use it only as clickie now.
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