To Tame a Land: Massive Hate/Amp/DPS/HP Tank, 12 Fighter 6 Pally 2 Monk

[Asmodeus451]

one thing i havent seen mentioned yet is that with the Improved Shield Bash Feat you can S&B even more effectively:

(from DDO Wiki)
Improved Shield Bash enables the character to retain the shield bonus to its Armor Class when using Shield bash, and grants a 20% chance to make a secondary shield bash while attacking with a melee weapon.

so that enables you to shield bash while turtled up without losing AC, which matters little to this build, AND
grants a 20% chance per swing to proc an offhand attack with your shield, which could add alot to your DPS while tanking. (shield spikes can be crafted on, as well as other damage add-ons)

[edit: looked it up. your best best for going the damaging shield route is a +5 Mithril Spiked Shield of Bashing. Shield Spikes shard and Bashing shard. unless shields come in Silver, then go with Silver rather than Mithril. And if you wanna get fancy add on a Force Damage Alchemical Ritual too.]

[Srozbun]

Ahh right on man, I remember you saying something about a new righteousness tanking build in the works a while back.

Are you gonna use WF DR with improved shield mastery? It seems like that would be really powerful with the 25% being applied first then DR on what damage remains. Are you going to try for enough amp and hp to take horroth on hard/elite or just focus on the typical WF tank duties?

As for the new chimeras fang, I wrote a little on that in the feats section. I don't know if it outperforms an optimally crafted boss beater on hard/elite, the base damage and +10 enhancement is nice but prolly not enough to ignore the high DR it isn't breaking. For 3 feats, ie 60 hp, I'd want it to be optimal on elite and not just something to show off with on normal where I prolly wouldn't even bother switching to SnB until Sulu dropped. Also, Helf is prolly a better version of this build but may require some >+2 tomes to maintain the starting stats I want.

The new epic fang has silver on it so it would bypass DR.

[NoidRoid]

Thanks for the info guys ^

1) Improved Shield Bashing - Not bad since it's passive DPS, Levik's is 1d12 +5 with a pretty good STR modifier. If aggro is an issue that would definitely be worth the feat, using a shield is a terrible idea if you can't hold aggro with it. I'm a long ways away from being able to test out whether it's needed or not, but that's something to keep in mind thanks.

2) Epic Chimera's Fang - That's what I get for being too lazy to find the dev post in that sentinals upgrade thread. I was looking at an old version of it without silver, that change definitely changes things quite a bit. It surely does outperform a crafted BS, and it's probably worth 3 toughness feats and staying human(so really only a net loss of 40 hp since I was going to lose one by switching to half elf). Does anyone know if the 20% incite stacks with the claw set 20% incite? That'd be nice.

Will make an edit to the original post sometime soon to reflect new info.

[NoidRoid]

Been thinking about some changes for a couple days and just updated with what I feel are two very strong options for the build. Thanks for all the input guys, keep it coming.

[Propane]

Seem like these types of builds are getting a lot of attention now days

In regards to shield crafting...

+ 5 Holy Threat Incite 20% Mirthial (silver) DR breaker is a way I am thinking of going

[NoidRoid]

Another update. I was fortunate enough to loot a Hyena Claw Necklace shard and that item allows for +20 HP and a +6 WIS item in the new gear layout without losing anything.

I have also been talking to some Pally's who tank Horroth with SnB to get an idea of how much DPS and hate are really needed to hold aggro. For now I've dropped Improved Shield Bash for another toughness as I don't think it'll be needed.