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    "The two class Skills for a Sorcerer are Bluff (Charisma-based) and Concentration (Wisdom-based). Every other Skill is non-class for a Sorcerer, so putting points into them at level will be at a reduced efficiency and at a digression from the Sorcerer class Skills. So if you are going to build on Skills as a Sorcerer, build on Bluff and Concentration. But if your build is not Drow Elf or Human, then you will likely only receive one Skill Point at each level (as Intelligence should not be built higher than minimum). If you only have one Skill Point to distribute at level, then put it into Bluff. If you have two, put them into Bluff and Concentration. Also, practice getting good at using the Bluff Skill, as your Sorcerer will be a master at it at some point."

    I received this over in game chat so I don't know who wrote it, but I would like to commend the author for altering how I think about my sorc. Anyone have a lesser heart for sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo112 View Post
    "The two class Skills for a Sorcerer are Bluff (Charisma-based) and Concentration (Wisdom-based). Every other Skill is non-class for a Sorcerer, so putting points into them at level will be at a reduced efficiency and at a digression from the Sorcerer class Skills. So if you are going to build on Skills as a Sorcerer, build on Bluff and Concentration. But if your build is not Drow Elf or Human, then you will likely only receive one Skill Point at each level (as Intelligence should not be built higher than minimum). If you only have one Skill Point to distribute at level, then put it into Bluff. If you have two, put them into Bluff and Concentration. Also, practice getting good at using the Bluff Skill, as your Sorcerer will be a master at it at some point."

    I received this over in game chat so I don't know who wrote it, but I would like to commend the author for altering how I think about my sorc. Anyone have a lesser heart for sale?
    That sounds suspiciously like someone I've run into before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo112 View Post
    "The two class Skills for a Sorcerer are Bluff (Charisma-based) and Concentration (Wisdom-based). Every other Skill is non-class for a Sorcerer, so putting points into them at level will be at a reduced efficiency and at a digression from the Sorcerer class Skills. So if you are going to build on Skills as a Sorcerer, build on Bluff and Concentration. But if your build is not Drow Elf or Human, then you will likely only receive one Skill Point at each level (as Intelligence should not be built higher than minimum). If you only have one Skill Point to distribute at level, then put it into Bluff. If you have two, put them into Bluff and Concentration. Also, practice getting good at using the Bluff Skill, as your Sorcerer will be a master at it at some point."

    I received this over in game chat so I don't know who wrote it, but I would like to commend the author for altering how I think about my sorc. Anyone have a lesser heart for sale?
    I made sure to put Tharne's goggles on my sorc so I can get that sweet sneak attack damage on my spells when I bluff mobs! I don't need no concentration! I stand in the back, so I could never get hit!
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    On a slight tangent, I've often seen people say that Concentration is Wisdom-based. It's in fact Constitution-based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo112 View Post
    "[...] But if your build is not Drow Elf or Human, [...]"
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    There are people that make non-drow sorcs?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoerm View Post
    On a slight tangent, I've often seen people say that Concentration is Wisdom-based. It's in fact Constitution-based.
    Not a tangent. In fact, I think it bolsters Ironlion's point even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KannyaAryien View Post
    That sounds suspiciously like someone I've run into before...
    Smells suspicious too.....It's likely the same person who advocates not bother with fort on non-melees or not investing in UMD unless your a bard....
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    I have no idea who wrote it personally, someone just sent it to me in a tell in-game and thought it was good advice worth sharing, even for the non-drow sorcs out there.
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    Bad advice in my opinion, concentration and UMD are the most important skills you can train. UMD being the most important. I feel this way as someone can take quicken spell and overcome a low concentration score. You can cast jump to overcome a low jump score. But with no UMD you will never open up the world of divine scrolls to your sorc. These include raise dead and heal. Heal being very important to be self sufficient if you are not Warforged.

    Even though UMD is not a class train skill the high Charisma of a sorc makes up for that to some extent. And it's fairly easy to get a very good if no fail score for raise dead on your sorc by just putting that half point per level.
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    Default Bestest advice evar

    The 3rd point should go into listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apep1412 View Post
    <sarcasm>
    There are people that make non-drow sorcs?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTsays View Post
    The 3rd point should go into listen.
    No no no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkrok View Post
    no No No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTsays View Post
    The 3rd point should go into listen.
    Heal if ur a wf, but repair if ur a human. That way you contribute more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo112 View Post
    "The two class Skills for a Sorcerer are Bluff (Charisma-based) and Concentration (Wisdom-based). Every other Skill is non-class for a Sorcerer, so putting points into them at level will be at a reduced efficiency and at a digression from the Sorcerer class Skills. So if you are going to build on Skills as a Sorcerer, build on Bluff and Concentration. But if your build is not Drow Elf or Human, then you will likely only receive one Skill Point at each level (as Intelligence should not be built higher than minimum). If you only have one Skill Point to distribute at level, then put it into Bluff. If you have two, put them into Bluff and Concentration. Also, practice getting good at using the Bluff Skill, as your Sorcerer will be a master at it at some point."

    I received this over in game chat so I don't know who wrote it, but I would like to commend the author for altering how I think about my sorc. Anyone have a lesser heart for sale?
    There is a skill called Use magic Device that some fleshy Sorcs find kinda handy now and then. I always want agro on my caster be it Arcane or Divine... controlling DPS is always my casters priority... I do this through spell selection and clicking metas's on and off, And use heal scrolls at will to offset extra damage taken when Agro is too intense, atleast thats the theory lol UMD > Bluff > Concentration IMO on a fleshy Sorc

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    Please guys, learn your 'Cleric Healing Wave Strategies'. Its vital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milamber69 View Post
    Please guys, learn your 'Cleric Healing Wave Strategies'. Its vital.
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    That's all it takes for honorary membership? Hmm, 5 toons off timer now ... expect 10 screenshots in 6 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo112 View Post
    That's all it takes for honorary membership? Hmm, 5 toons off timer now ... expect 10 screenshots in 6 days.
    I guess you missed the part about being invited.
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