pvp exploit

[Veriden]

Melees beware, sorc savant3 of ice does not need line of sight and can go through the walls in pvp areas so they can hide behind the wall at the back of the lobster and cast ice prison on you with out needing line of sight. This needs attention for it's a broken mechanic exploit being used for griefing.

[Quarterling]

Oh well.

[Nysrock]

Oh well.

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[Rauven]

This

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[cdbd3rd]

This ^

That

Indeed.

[MartinusWyllt]

This ^

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with Rusty

[hityawithastick]

Cold savants are widely acknowledged as the best single-target DPS casters in the game. Don't fight them.

[karnokvolrath]

THis thread is very confuzing to me...whats pvp?

[Trillea]

THis thread is very confuzing to me...whats pvp?

Currently, it's a testbed for new abilities. Someone conveniently found out for us that you do not need line-of-sight for the new ice savant ability! Thank you, OP!

[Dunklerlindwurm]

There is PvP in this Game?

[Bladedge]

Shouldnt this go into the PVP section of the forums where this post can be avoided.

There is PvP in this Game?

Yep when one player disagrees with another then we have PvP

[Kmnh]

The spell doesn't require line of sight. That's not an exploit.

[Veriden]

The spell doesn't require line of sight. That's not an exploit.

If you knew how dnd works, ALL spells need line of sight.

[kernal42]

If you knew how dnd works, ALL spells need line of sight.

This is verifiably false.

-Kernal

[Veriden]

This is verifiably false.

-Kernal

Then by all means, name one aside from Teleport and its like spells of transportation. Preferably one that is in this game.

As for teleport and it's like spells if you haven't been to the location you're trying to get to theres a chance to teleport yourself into a wall.

And why I put it here instead of pvp forum is because it does not apply to soley pvp, but to quests and the like. Fact of the matter any "target" spell needs line of sight to function properly as this game lacks scrying devices that players can cast through, taking advantage of this flaw in design is indeed an exploit.

[kernal42]

Then by all means, name one aside from Teleport and its like spells of transportation. Preferably one that is in this game.

The false statement you made did not exclude Teleport, so that is a valid spell to use to demonstrate the invalidity of the statement.

There are, of course, others.

Scrying does not require line of sight (obviously; it would be useless otherwise).
Nightmare does not require line of sight.

There are even offensive spells implemented in DDO that do not require line of sight. For example:
Circle of Death and Wail of the Banshee both can affect targets that you do not have line-of-sight to.

Cheers,
Kernal

[Uska]

Then by all means, name one aside from Teleport and its like spells of transportation. Preferably one that is in this game.

As for teleport and it's like spells if you haven't been to the location you're trying to get to theres a chance to teleport yourself into a wall.

And why I put it here instead of pvp forum is because it does not apply to soley pvp, but to quests and the like. Fact of the matter any "target" spell needs line of sight to function properly as this game lacks scrying devices that players can cast through, taking advantage of this flaw in design is indeed an exploit.

This ddo stop trying to bring all the dnd rules in many of them are just unworkable here

[Vordax]

If you knew how dnd works, ALL spells need line of sight.

Really? How about teleport?

Vordax

[Beld]

Really? How about teleport?

Vordax

Or was that the old rule

[Lithic]

Really? How about teleport?

Vordax

You need line of sight to the target of your spell (you), not the target of your end location.