after a day playing on Argo, you guys are weird. After listening someone in Trade not shutting up about, you know I have no clue what he was talking about, and dealing some of the more interesting ways to spam guild invites (after which I made a guild to get away from that) I was starting to wonder were are all these jaded forum types were hiding.
Then I realised, I was in korthos/harbor/marketplace. They wouldn't slum it.
Then I found a level 3 electic blue haired reincarned horc rogue in the harbor with the guild tag Ace over Kings, then all was well with the world.