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  1. #1
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    Just hit 20 on my fighter and I am planning to TR it into a warchanter. My goal was it have a Helf Rogue Dilettante for SA dmg w/ points into Bluff (for more SAs) and points into haggle and UMD. Also took 2 fighter levels for feats and 6 barb levels for rage.
    EDIT: added improved build @ 3rd post
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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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    Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
    (2 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 12 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 326
    Spell Points: 409 
    BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 14
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    23
    Dexterity            14                    14
    Constitution         16                    17
    Intelligence         10                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    18
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                    12
    Bluff                 6                    27
    Concentration         7                    20
    Diplomacy             2                     4
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                2                    18
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  2                     2
    Intimidate            2                     8
    Jump                  7                    16
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently         2                     2
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               6                    21
    Repair                0                     1
    Search                0                     1
    Spot                 -1                    -1
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      6                    27
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
    Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II

    In terms of feats I had a hard time choosing between stunning blow and FoP. I choose FoP because I wanted more will saves and also because the build probably will not do as well in DCs as say a full on fighter or barb.

    I build this towards end game content but I am absolutely sure it could use some tweaks.
    Last edited by Nader; 07-01-2011 at 10:43 AM.

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    Why such a heavy splash? Personally I like to stick with a 14 bard minimum as that will get you the 2nd to last increase for IC. I'm also not a fan of Rage since it locks out your spells, but I know people make it work. I would see if the 16/2/2 build fits what you want better (at least for me I like it better as it's more bard). It's here: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=242633 It could be modified to HElf.

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    This is a bit late but im hoping to bump to get some more feedback.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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    Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
    (2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 280
    Spell Points: 565 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            10                    10
    Constitution         16                    16
    Intelligence         14                    16
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    18
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               4                     4
    Bluff                 2                     4
    Concentration         5                    21
    Diplomacy             2                     4
    Disable Device        6                    26
    Haggle                6                     8
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  0                     0
    Intimidate            2                     8
    Jump                  7                    10
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently         0                     0
    Open Lock             4                    23
    Perform               n/a                  22
    Repair                2                     3
    Search                6                    26
    Spot                  3                     3
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                4                     4
    Use Magic Device      6                    27
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
    Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
    Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


    I decided to overhaul most of the build. My goal is to have a warchanter w/ thf dps and trap skills (no spot because I know where most traps are otherwise I'd look on ddowiki before hand). I took more bard levels aswell.

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    Looks pretty solid to me. I would say try to fit in rogue or fighter haste boost. Maybe drop Fighter Critical Accuracy I for it. Not sure that FoP is really needed but you have the feat with no issue.

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    The build linked in my signature might help you out a bit.

    It would be pretty easy to swap out the barbarian levels for rogue.
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