Please Nerf Water Savant

[Duncani_Daho]

Maximize and Empower, with the SLA on Niacs, is way over powered. Please nerf this. Don't have any idea what the Devs had in mind for the savants, but they are nukers gone wild. TWO spell points, seriously?

[ProdigalGuru]

Roll one, or invite one to your group.

Asking for nerfs is stupid and pointless in a group- and goal-oriented game.

Please stop.

[hermespan]

Roll one, or invite one to your group.

Asking for nerfs is stupid and pointless in a group- and goal-oriented game.

Please stop.

THIS...
Nerfs have hit every build I've made, melee, caster or otherwise. I'm sick of it. This is a group oriented game. "balance" is not only unachievable in an mmo, it's utterly pointless to bother trying to achieve it in a PvE game. PvP is something to do while you are waiting for your group to fill. It deserves absolutely no consideration from the developers.

someone finds a way to maximize their output, it gets nerfed, then something else rises to the top. More people whine, that gets nerfed and so on and so on and so on. It's quite possibly the biggest waste of developer resources possible. It's utterly pointless.

+1

[Milfeulle]

...and why is this post in Perma-death & Static Groups again?

[mournbladereigns]

this...
Pvp Is Something To Do While You Are In A ****y Mood And Want To Gank N00bs Lolololol. It Deserves Absolutely No Consideration From The Developers.

Fixed

[Aaxeyu]

Roll one, or invite one to your group.

Asking for nerfs is stupid and pointless in a group- and goal-oriented game.

Please stop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw

[Milfeulle]

inb4:

"Please Nerf Air Savant,with the SLA on Eladar's, is way over powered. Please nerf this. Don't have any idea what the Devs had in mind for the savants, but they are nukers gone wild. TWO spell points, seriously?"

"Please Nerf Angel of Vengeance,with the SLA on Divine Punishment, is way over powered. Please nerf this. Don't have any idea what the Devs had in mind for the FVS, but they are nukers gone wild. TWO spell points, seriously?"

[Illiain]

"Please Nerf Angel of Vengeance,with the SLA on Divine Punishment, is way over powered. Please nerf this. Don't have any idea what the Devs had in mind for the FVS, but they are nukers gone wild. TWO spell points, seriously?"

Divine Punishment is a 5th level spell for Clerics and FvS, at regular sp costs, not a 2sp SLA.

[Milfeulle]

Divine Punishment is a 5th level spell for Clerics and FvS, at regular sp costs, not a 2sp SLA.

just trolling around .

On topic: At end game, I just spam cone of cold and Otiluke's Freezing Sphere plus ice storm, works great in Shavarath...... with my wiz. Grab a bunch of mobs till yellow~red alert and AoE, then grab the next bunch.

[Illiain]

just trolling around .

On topic: At end game, I just spam cone of cold and Otiluke's Freezing Sphere plus ice storm, works great in Shavarath...... with my wiz. Grab a bunch of mobs till yellow~red alert and AoE, then grab the next bunch.

Ok, just making sure. I don't want people running around with misinformation claiming FvS are overpowered now.

On the other hand, I wish they got it as a SLA for 2sp.

[Elaril]

Ok, just making sure. I don't want people running around with misinformation claiming FvS are overpowered now.

On the other hand, I wish they got it as a SLA for 2sp.

FVS ascencency costs 0 sp. So you could make the case that they already have something better.

[danotmano1998]

I can see why the Niac's is considered overpowered as far as damage goes...


But it IS a save or nothing spell. Plus it has it's cooldown time.
I hardly consider a spell that does a few hundred points of damage to one enemy at a time with a significant time spread between bursts to need a nerf.

When I'm in a room with a mob, yeah, I can pretty reliably kill ONE non-boss with 2 sp.. And then the rest beat me to death.. *ding*

See what I'm saying?
It's really not a gamebreaker, IMO.

[Memnir]

Please Nerf Water Savant

No, please don't.
And I say this as one with an Acid Savant, not a Water.


They're WAI, and fine as-is.

[Postumus]

Is this a call to DDO to nerf all water savants b/c you think they are OP in PD?

B/c if this is just for PD, can't you just make a rule within your guild to disallow them?

[Chai]

Water savants are the single target DPS kings. They make excellent raid nukers at high levels. The are fine for the way the game was designed.

Werent you the guy telling me a couple mid level sorcs couldnt smoke most content at level in this game? -heh.

This is D&D - casters are supposed to be gods. I dont favor the "balance" of sammich MMO games where the casters are mashing the same three buttons as everyone else, but the effect on the screen looks slightly different.

[Thrudh]

This is D&D - casters are supposed to be gods. I dont favor the "balance" of sammich MMO games where the casters are mashing the same three buttons as everyone else, but the effect on the screen looks slightly different.

I agree that casters should be gods... But I do have to semi-agree that TWO (2) SP is a bit low...

[Chai]

I agree that casters should be gods... But I do have to semi-agree that TWO (2) SP is a bit low...

Its supposed to be free. 2sp was the cost assigned to it to emulate "spell like ability" in am MMO that uses mana as the limiting factor.

[Dawnsfire]

I honestly do not get the "please nerf" whatever threads. If this were a game that was primarily pvp I would understand but the existence of water savants do not in any way harm my ranger for example. Melees in general could use a little love though.

To summarize, don't knock certain classes (builds) down just build other classes up. It would make many more people happy I suspect.

[cheever77]

Maximize and Empower, with the SLA on Niacs, is way over powered. Please nerf this. Don't have any idea what the Devs had in mind for the savants, but they are nukers gone wild. TWO spell points, seriously?

Seriously enough is enough.... Will you never be happy..????

Nerf this Nerf that,... then WHY OH WHY DID YOU NERF MY TWF........ RAGE QUIT.

I say don't like it don't play it or don't allow your guild to play one.

Don't ruin it for all because you think they are OP.

[Trillea]

Maximize and Empower, with the SLA on Niacs, is way over powered. Please nerf this. Don't have any idea what the Devs had in mind for the savants, but they are nukers gone wild. TWO spell points, seriously?

Not just no but **** no!

It absolutely IS WAI, and is not as OP as you think it is. It is full damage or nothing. No other ray spell in the game is like this, and once you get past the early, already-easy levels, it is a functional spell without being OP. Not to mention that, as an ice savant, we have NO cheap ways of taking care of many undead to include skellies and liches, and do reduced damage to many others.

Having this one spell (which is single target damage, ice's focus) makes up for the abysmally horrid snowball swarm being the tier 2 spell.

Leave my ice savant alone!