+3 Tome on Normal Raid

[Fontora]

Had a few people asking me to post this as "proof" you can get +3 tomes on normal raids (this was from Pikers Fate).



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NB: I got lazy blacking out names.

[Asketes]

yup, this is known.

anyone who doesn't know just doesn't know. lol

funny how vod/hound won't drop them on normal though

[rest]

Yeah I got a +3 cha on my sorc in piker's fate. I think that is the only raid that will drop +3 tomes on normal. Well except ToD in the Sally chest, maybe.

[Blank_Zero]

Grats.

Although I find it more impressive that it dropped in an at-level group.

[Arkat]

You guys, of course, realize what happened to the OP happened on a +1 loot weekend, right? He probably also had a loot jewel running.

I have only ever seen +3 Tomes drop in Reaver's Fate on Elite.

[Trillea]

You guys, of course, realize what happened to the OP happened on a +1 loot weekend, right? He probably also had a loot jewel running.

I have only ever seen +3 Tomes drop in Reaver's Fate on Elite.

Loot weekends/jewels have nothing to do with raid loot. Never have, probably never will.

[Crazyfruit]

Yup, saw +3 int the last time I was in there. Wasn't elite.

Hound and VoD both use really special loot tables. For most items they are exactly the same on N/H/E (or close to it). Shields (HoX) and Bracers (VoD) are incredibly much more rare on normal, and I'm assuming they did the same thing with tomes.

This all comes from some random source posted elsewhere, but my own experiences would agree.

[Srozbun]

Loot weekends/jewels have nothing to do with raid loot. Never have, probably never will.

Also you can see from the OP's buff bar that there is no jewel running.

[Sweyn]

Edit, nvm

[Arkat]

Loot weekends/jewels have nothing to do with raid loot.

Link please.

Also you can see from the OP's buff bar that there is no jewel running.

I wouldn't know as I've never used them but thanks for the knowledge.

[toughguyjoe]

Link please.

I can't find it but I know it's true. Loot bonuses of all types(Jewel/Bonus weekend/Half-Orc ability) DO NOT effect specific loot. This includes Raid loot, as well as specific named items that drop from chests.

If they did, everyone would wear one every raid they went in. Don't you think? Why go into a raid with lower chances?

[Arkat]

I can't find it but I know it's true. Loot bonuses of all types(Jewel/Bonus weekend/Half-Orc ability) DO NOT effect specific loot. This includes Raid loot, as well as specific named items that drop from chests.

If they did, everyone would wear one every raid they went in. Don't you think? Why go into a raid with lower chances?

That makes sense regarding Loot Jewels.

What about +1 loot weekends? Has it been definitively established (by either Dev comments or objective testing) that those do not affect Raid chests?

Just curious.

[stainer]

I can't find it but I know it's true. Loot bonuses of all types(Jewel/Bonus weekend/Half-Orc ability) DO NOT effect specific loot. This includes Raid loot, as well as specific named items that drop from chests.

If they did, everyone would wear one every raid they went in. Don't you think? Why go into a raid with lower chances?

I am not sure if tomes are included in that list.

[Arkat]

Link please.




I wouldn't know as I've never used them but thanks for the knowledge.

Neg rep for that? Really?

[uthanak69]

Loot weekends/jewels have nothing to do with raid loot. Never have, probably never will.

And even if it did, it shows in the buff and I didn't see that 'buff' up there.

[TheDjinnFor]

You guys, of course, realize what happened to the OP happened on a +1 loot weekend, right? He probably also had a loot jewel running.

I have only ever seen +3 Tomes drop in Reaver's Fate on Elite.

http://ddowiki.com/page/User:Yoko5000/Raid_drop_rates

[Arkat]

http://ddowiki.com/page/User:Yoko5000/Raid_drop_rates

Oooh wow. Interesting.

Thanks!

+1

Also, FWIW, you're likely subject to selection bias here. I know I hardly ever run Reaver's Fate on less than elite - usually about once per toon on normal at-level for exp, then many completions on elite.

It would not be surprising to me, then, that you have not seen +3 tomes drop on normal. It would also not be surprising to me if you said you'd never seen madstone boots or cloudburst drop on normal, either, just due to the small number of normal completions most players accrue.

You may just have a point here.

[kernal42]

You guys, of course, realize what happened to the OP happened on a +1 loot weekend, right? He probably also had a loot jewel running.

I have only ever seen +3 Tomes drop in Reaver's Fate on Elite.

Also, FWIW, you're likely subject to selection bias here. I know I hardly ever run Reaver's Fate on less than elite - usually about once per toon on normal at-level for exp, then many completions on elite.

It would not be surprising to me, then, that you have not seen +3 tomes drop on normal. It would also not be surprising to me if you said you'd never seen madstone boots or cloudburst drop on normal, either, just due to the small number of normal completions most players accrue.

Cheers,
Kernal

[Miahoo]

I've heard +x loot bonuses dont affect named items drop. I've never heard it doesnt affect raids...

Never the less, all the chests buffers crying out loud on shrouds when someone open a chest before they pray for it.