I cant stand half-orcs.

[eulogy098]

From what I see, HOrcs make horrible horrible tanks.

People roll them and go max ****** dps and forget that they need a bit more than the absolute minimum hp...

If you wanna max dps at the cost of survivability, roll a HOrc.

Half orcs have no survival penalties at all, how are the horrible tanks? My barb as WF had 870 hp, my barb as half orc has now 830.

[-Zyxas-]

Really how is, how fugly helfs are have anything to do with anything? Also WF are not the most adorable of races imo. you also leave out WF immunities whic are free.

My firend's Warforged Barbarian is adorable. = D

Half-orcs are ugly, I'd play a WF or some other fleshy over one of those fugly things any day...well, except for halflings which are just creepy looking little monkeys. I can roll half-orcs and half-elves, but haven't played either yet. I don't care how good they are, you are basically choosing between hideous looking or shemale.

Agree with all but the half-elf bit, there are female helf hairstyles that hide the hideous failplasticsurgery face mostly. 13 and 27 cover most of the ugly, and there are a few others that cover enough of the ugly to possibly be usable.

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Tactics between WF and Horc stuff
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Horcs get a higher Trip and SB than many warforged. Any self-respecting Horc has 4 more strength than the WF equivalent, which equates to +2 DC. Warforged have to spend AP on their tactics and can only POSSIBLY get 1 higher than horc with all the enhancements. Someone may say, "well horcs have to pay for the strength enhancements", but this is already taken by dps-respecting horc melees, and WF con enhancements are also fairly appealing, which would balance out the AP usage.

[joneb1999]

heyy you snipped me

[eulogy098]

nerf halforcs.

buff warforged and dwarves.


i dont care about anyone else.