Okay, this is my first shot at a totally custom build, so please be gentle. My goals were:
1) Self-healing
2) Arcane Archer
3) Radiant Servant
4) Evasion
The original plan was to do an 18/2 Clonk, but I ran out of feats. I figured adding some levels of Fighter would be handy for extra feats and BAB, and picked up Kensai one in the process. It's not going to be healing much other than itself, but should be able to do that competently. I solo a lot, so self-healing is the main reasoning for Cleric, with a better spell selection than FvS. I've got a stash of saved q-staffs for melee, since the unarmed attack won't be superior to a swung staff. I went with the Clever Monkey for the small bonus to saves vs. traps to buff evasion. I took level ups in Wis to add to offensive DCs, kiting with arrows through blade barriers sounded like a fun time.
Questions:
Less Cleric, more Fighter/Monk?
FvS > Cleric?
Helf > Elf?
Trash the whole thing?
Already extant build that does the same thing, better?
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Amaluin Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Female (6 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 12 Cleric) Hit Points: 274 Spell Points: 867 BAB: 16\16\21\26\26 Fortitude: 18 Reflex: 14 Will: 20 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 14 16 Dexterity 18 20 Constitution 12 14 Intelligence 8 10 Wisdom 16 25 Charisma 8 10 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 4 7 Bluff -1 1 Concentration 5 23 Diplomacy -1 1 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 1 Heal 3 9 Hide 4 5 Intimidate -1 1 Jump 5 10 Listen 3 9 Move Silently 4 5 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 0 Search -1 2 Spot 7 18 Swim 2 3 Tumble 5 6 Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I Level 2 (Cleric) Enhancement: Follower of the Silver Flame Enhancement: Improved Heal I Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery Level 4 (Cleric) Ability Raise: WIS Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I Level 5 (Cleric) Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Cleric Divine Healing I Level 6 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Enhancement: Improved Heal II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light I Level 7 (Cleric) Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I Level 8 (Cleric) Ability Raise: WIS Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I Level 10 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Bow Strength Level 11 (Fighter) Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: WIS Feat: (Selected) Manyshot Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Rapid Shot Level 13 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Level 14 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 15 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows Level 16 (Cleric) Ability Raise: WIS Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows Level 17 (Cleric) Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 18 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows Enhancement: Cleric Smiting I Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II Level 19 (Cleric) Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Smiting I Enhancement: Cleric Smiting II Level 20 (Cleric) Ability Raise: WIS Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light II Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II
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06-20-2011, 08:02 PM #1Community Member
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12Cleric/6Fighter/2Monk Radiant Arcane Zen Kensai Archer
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06-21-2011, 11:52 AM #2Build Constructionist
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For a mostly-cleric AA, have a look at the Radiant Archer in my sig. The "secret ingredient" is a wiz splash, which lets you drop Mental Toughness and gain a free meta feat - effectively a net gain of 2 feats over monk 2 / cleric 18. You do give up RadServ III if & when it ever comes out, though.
For a cleric 12-based build, I came up with this:
The thing to remember is this build is an AA who can act as a backup healer / buffer, not a cleric who can use a bow. As such, the main thing I don't like about it is she doesn't have more meta feats; but I'd have to give up either ranged or melee feats to get them.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Neutral Elf Female (2 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Cleric) Hit Points: 267 Spell Points: 756 BAB: 16\16\21\26\26 Fortitude: 18 Reflex: 18 Will: 14 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 16 21 Dexterity 17 22 Constitution 14 14 Intelligence 8 8 Wisdom 12 12 Charisma 8 8 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14 Level 1 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot Level 2 (Ranger) Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons Level 4 (Monk) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack Level 5 (Ranger) Level 6 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Level 7 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant Level 8 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Level 9 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot Level 10 (Cleric) Level 11 (Cleric) Level 12 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Level 13 (Cleric) Level 14 (Cleric) Level 15 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot Level 16 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Level 17 (Cleric) Level 18 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 19 (Cleric) Level 20 (Cleric) Ability Raise: STR Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I Enhancement: Undying Call Enhancement: Follower of the Undying Court Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I Enhancement: Improved Heal I Enhancement: Improved Heal II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery II Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery III Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
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06-21-2011, 12:29 PM #3Community Member
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Personally, I like Unbongwah's dual investment in ranged and melee.
However, are Power Attack and gTWF really better than Empower + Maximize? Divine Punishment and Blade Barrier alone would be more useful for a kiting combat style, I would think.
I'm also wondering what the tradeoff is between ranged to-hit and damage. Would it be better to put level ups into Dex for the reflex save and ranged to-hit? -3 damage in exchange for +3 to-hit...Last edited by Phidius; 06-21-2011 at 12:36 PM.
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06-21-2011, 12:46 PM #4Build Constructionist
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PA is a monk bonus feat; I could trade it for, say, Zen Archery or another Toughness, but I can't swap it for an extra meta. GTWF, Imp Prec Shot, and Prec Shot are all eligible for the chop, though. When it comes to the no-save light spells, my concern is (A) what enhs do I drop to boost the Smiting line (APs wind up pretty tight) and (B) by the time I get them, are they of any use, given that my cleric lvls are all delayed by 8 lvls? Same with Blade Barrier: she doesn't get it until lvl 19, her DCs will be quite low, and at best she'll cast it as a lvl 12 cleric at endgame. Ultimately I decided the DPS spells would strain the build too much; if I swapped in another meta or two, it would be for extra healing oomph, not DPS.
Originally Posted by Phidius
My hope is that having at least DEX 28 + BAB 20 (Divine Power) + whatever other buffs I get (Inspire Courage or Greater Heroism, Recitation, Divine Favor, etc.) would provide enough to-hit. Likewise I would hope all my saves would be 30+ once fully buffed (+3 from +6 stat items, +2 Luck, +4 Greater Heroism, +5 Resistance, etc.) making them adequate if not great.I'm also wondering what the tradeoff is between ranged to-hit and damage. Would it be better to put level ups into Dex for the reflex save and ranged to-hit? -3 damage versus +3 to-hit...
And thanks for the feedback!
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06-21-2011, 01:05 PM #5Community Member
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Yeah, that's a bummer. Zen Archery would give you the ability to stay in stance, but without any way to spend the Ki, I don't think the stance is better than PA. Originally Posted by unbongwah
Sure, Stryde got a lot of use from BB and DP with only 12 cleric levels at level 20. The key is to only use it when you're being swarmed. Of course, I front-load the cleric levels to get them as quickly as possible. I wouldn't give up the Prec/Imp Prec shot, though - that's a big part of this build. Originally Posted by unbongwah
I would love to fit in both Maximize and Empower on Stryde, but Maximize alone is pretty good. The only drawback is the extra spell point consumption from casting Mass Cure Moderate, but Heal + bursts is usually all I need.
As far as the AP goes, I don't take more than Cleric Prayer of Life I/Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I to qualify for RS2, and normally only take the first rank of Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I. At the same time, I only put in one rank of the Cleric Smiting I.
Sounds good to me - Stryde prefers to use spells + melee, and only pulls out a bow when I'm tired of chasing stuff, so I don't normally pay attention to the to-hit for ranged. Of course, he's a Weapon Finesse build, so it wouldn't do me any good to pay attention to it, as it's already as high as I can make it. Originally Posted by unbongwah
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My hope is that having at least DEX 28 + BAB 20 (Divine Power) + whatever other buffs I get (Inspire Courage or Greater Heroism, Recitation, etc.) would provide enough to-hit. Likewise I would hope all my saves would be 30+ once fully buffed (+3 from +6 stat items, +2 Luck, +4 Greater Heroism, +5 Resistance, etc.) making them adequate if not great.
And thanks for the feedback!"I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities" - Vaarsuvius, OoTS #674
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06-21-2011, 01:34 PM #6Community Member
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Quick question: Does a Drow have the possibility of AA, without being ranger? I mean, it is an elf, but maybe it doesnt count. The DDO wiki is not clear...
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06-21-2011, 02:33 PM #7Build Constructionist
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Nope: only elves & half-elves get the racial AA enhs; everyone else has to be a ranger. Originally Posted by Ugumagre
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06-21-2011, 03:27 PM #8Community Member
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Ok, thanks. It was my only hope for a gimped cleric drow, I will reroll. Originally Posted by unbongwah
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06-22-2011, 06:36 PM #9Community Member
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I like your ideas, and this is definitely an AA who happens to have some healing skills. I'm having tremendous fun with my build, but as I'm still in low levels I'm seeing if rebuilding with ranger levels in place of fighter would be worthwhile. I'm thinking not, as it ultimately pushes Manyshot to level 14. Originally Posted by unbongwah
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06-23-2011, 09:24 PM #10Community Member
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12 rngr 6 cleric 2 monk?
12rngr-gtwf, range feats, gives sp
6 cleric gives sp
2 monk=2 feats, zen archery, toughness?
when i generated this, it had about 700 sp w/o taking mental toughness. it could be a decent backup healer.
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