So, I'm unlocking Monk very soon and after doing some research, I've decided I want to go with the light Monk. I'm wanting self-healing and buffing while still dishing decent damage.
As the title says, I only have 28-points available. No premium races except Drow. Tomes are a maybe; I can afford one +1 on my main toon, maybe two if I grind.
Or if you can point me to a build that satisfies my needs reasonably well, I'll check that out. So far, I haven't found anything.
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Thread: REQUEST - 28-point Light Monk
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06-20-2011, 05:13 PM #1Community Member
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REQUEST - 28-point Light Monk
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06-20-2011, 05:17 PM #2Community Member
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28 Point monks are pretty sad...I would recommend waiting until you unlock 32 point builds, the extra stat points make a significant difference.
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06-20-2011, 06:38 PM #3Community Member
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I've heard that, too. But I'm planning on TRing him as soon as I can after I hit level 20, so I'm not really worried about any endgame play.
Originally Posted by Sequell
28 Point monks are pretty sad...I would recommend waiting until you unlock 32 point builds, the extra stat points make a significant difference.
I know a couple 28 point Monks, and they don't have too many problems.
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06-20-2011, 08:14 PM #4The Hatchery
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If you're not worried about endgame play due to immediate TRing, then a Finesse Halfling light monk is a pretty good 28-point option, since you can get a workable AC and slightly mitigate the MAD (multiple attribute dependency).
Something like this for the stat spread:
Str: 12 (+1 tome for Power attack)
Dex: 18
Con: 14
Int: 8
Wis: 14
Cha: 8
Str-based monks are tough to pull off with only 28 points, though.Order of the Silver Dragons||Argonessen
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06-20-2011, 10:22 PM #5Community Member
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I honestly don't see what the big fuss is with 28pt vs 32pt monk. I have 32pt unlocked, and it is nice but a character isn't automatically useless or terrible because they're 28pt. A halfling Dex-based would be as Vissarion said. A strength-based monk would be something like this for stats (human or HElf):
14Str / 16Dex / 14Con / 8Int / 14Wis / 8Cha (HOrc would be +2Str, -2 Int and Cha)
A 32pt would have +2 Str or Wis. That's +1 DCs (5%) or +1 damage/hit (5% hit, a tiny amount of damage).
Eat +1 Dex tome for ITWF and GTWF (can be eaten as late as level 14, higher if you're willing to do an expensive feat respec...), which should cost from 10k plat to 20k plat usually. This should be fairly attainable.
32pt versus 28pt is better for sure, but it's such a tiny difference that you won't be able to tell, although it's still there. It won't gimp you, but you won't be able to make exotic builds with every stat and such on 28pt. Sure you won't be able to get Void IV strike, but not everyone uses it since it was mainly useful pre-U9 for epics. Who cares? Some people. But to me, I just say oh well.
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06-21-2011, 08:57 AM #6Community Member
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Reason why monks are less good with the 28point is due to the stats they need to be efective: Str,Dex,Const & wisdom.
You can include Char as well if you wish to have dc with kukan do & shining star. You need base 18 to get grandmaster stances.. You need base 17 dex to get all the 2weap figh feats.
But you can make a very good monk with the 28 point as well. You only need to make the 4 points in stats with you skill up. My first monk was a 28 point as well, i was following this build guide ( http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=279033 ) & was effective, for most part in epics as well. Dc of skills are great. With a +6 item & exp +1 to wisdom i could jade even epic bearded devils from Devil Assault & EChrono.
Have fun & love the monks as they are the most fun class IMHO to play with so much multitasking that it sometimes drives you crazy as you wont know how you manage to change robes, wraps, use skills, use clickies, help clerics remove curses, revive people, constanly buff, heal (not much though with this build), stun mobs & have decent kills. Ah wish my exams were over.. I miss ddo & my monk
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06-21-2011, 09:24 AM #7Community Member
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You don't need Strength if you go Finesse based, which is what I'm probably gonna do. Originally Posted by Blackheartox
Or, the maximum strength you would need is 13 for Power Attack.
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06-21-2011, 12:21 PM #8Build Constructionist
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For a WIS-based monk, have a look at Rockan Robin; it's dark path, but pretty easy to change to light if you prefer.
Here's a pretty basic DEX-based 28-pt halfling light monk. Main things it has going for it are no tomes required (so it's good for a first-timer w/out twink resources) and fairly high to-hit & AC (even w/out CE); main downsides are lower DPS than a STR-based monk, low Stunning Blow DC, and unremarkable WIS means lower DCs on monk special attacks (Stunning Fist etc.).
Thrown weapon dmg I is a "primer" enh; need to spend 2 APs to get to the good stuff, so it doesn't really matter what you spend your 1st two APs on.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Neutral Halfling Female (20 Monk) Hit Points: 277 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 19 Will: 16 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 14 14 Dexterity 16 22 Constitution 14 14 Intelligence 8 8 Wisdom 14 16 Charisma 8 8 Level 1 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting Level 2 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 4 (Monk) Ability Raise: DEX Level 5 (Monk) Level 6 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Cleave (or other Shintao pre-req) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I Enhancement: Halfling Guile I Enhancement: Halfling Thrown Weapon Damage I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II Enhancement: The Receptive Earth Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Shintao Monk I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II Level 7 (Monk) Level 8 (Monk) Ability Raise: DEX Level 9 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Level 10 (Monk) Level 11 (Monk) Level 12 (Monk) Ability Raise: DEX Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Enhancement: Fists of Iron Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III Enhancement: Shintao Monk II Enhancement: Adept of Wind Enhancement: Master of Thunder Enhancement: Adept of Rock Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 13 (Monk) Level 14 (Monk) Level 15 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 16 (Monk) Ability Raise: DEX Level 17 (Monk) Level 18 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV Enhancement: Halfling Guile II Enhancement: Halfling Guile III Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV Enhancement: Shintao Monk III Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms Level 19 (Monk) Level 20 (Monk) Ability Raise: DEX Enhancement: Monk Serenity Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III Enhancement: Adept of Flame Enhancement: Adept of Rain
EDIT: skills - definitely max Concentration, after that it's up to you. I would probably max Diplomacy (shedding aggro is good for a low-HP melee toon, esp. w/Guile & Cunning providing SA dmg) and split remaining pts between Balance & Jump, with a rank of Tumble for good measure.Last edited by unbongwah; 06-21-2011 at 12:23 PM.
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06-21-2011, 12:56 PM #9Community Member
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Looks great, thanks. I'll definitely try it out. Originally Posted by unbongwah
How would the DPS compare to that of other classes? The way people talk sometimes make it sound like light Monks don't do a ton of damage.
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06-22-2011, 12:48 AM #10Community Member
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Don't waste your time bud, 28 point build monks are fail
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06-22-2011, 11:08 AM #11Community Member
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I hate it when people say that when they have nothing to back up their claims. Originally Posted by Rogann
And as I said, I'm planning on TRing as soon as I can after hitting level 20. I'm not looking for an endgame build.
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06-22-2011, 11:54 AM #12Build Constructionist
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06-22-2011, 10:18 PM #13Community Member
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What's there to explain? You'll be starved on points and since your gonna go dex your str is gonna be hella low so useless endgame~ trust me I had a 28 point dex monk(halfling) and 12 str is BAD. Originally Posted by Olath_Senger
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06-22-2011, 10:22 PM #14Community Member
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Either way u look at it a 28 point monk is a fail, and even if your gonna tr you prob want gear so u will be playing some endgame.
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06-22-2011, 11:12 PM #15Community Member
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Dude, I've said twice already that I'm not looking at any endgame content.
And I won't be starved on points because I'm going Dex-based with Finesse so I can still deal damage. Look at the build posted; does that look at all stat-starved?
If you don't have anything constructive, then I'm going to ask you to stop posting in my thread, especially because you've probably only read the title.
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06-22-2011, 11:31 PM #16Community Member
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Finesse only adds a to-hit, str still governs dmg... Originally Posted by Olath_Senger
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06-23-2011, 10:11 AM #17Community Member
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Better to hit and deal some damage than not hit at all. Originally Posted by Rogann
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06-23-2011, 10:20 AM #18Community Member
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Build looks ok, wont be bad for end game. IMO you can do under the big top with any sort of build, so yeah he will get those 20 epics easy (if he decides not to buy a druid heart from the store).
Btw dont mock 28 point monk builds, its the player who makes them work.
Yes 32 34 & 36 are better. But i was more useful in my first 28 points monk life then most of the 36...
Experience, patience & btw its a game for gods sake
(isnt ment as a religious act or any sort of + or anti religion comment, just thought that the sentence would be ok as an ending for the post)
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06-23-2011, 12:01 PM #19Community Member
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Or maybe go str and have the best of both worlds... Originally Posted by Olath_Senger
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06-23-2011, 12:05 PM #20Community Member
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House p quests are a joke on epic. I'm talking about tod and epic chrono. *** is a low str dex monk gonna do? You'll be tickling horoth. Originally Posted by Blackheartox
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