Yet another abomination build

[Malky]

I just had a weird build idea and i wanna share that... thing


Summary

TRd from my rogue
Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Female
(3 Monk / 13 Rogue / 4 Ranger)
BAB: 16 with ki weapons


Stats (34 pts) I've included ship buffs in the breakdown but no yugo pots since i'll be in that state most of the time, but most stats can go up by 2 if i stack buff and pot.

17 str + 5 levelups +2 tome +7 brawling gloves +1 kyosho's ring +2 fire stance +2 ram's might +2 ship = 38

15 dex +3 tome +3 enhancements +7 pirate ring +2 ship = 30
I'll need actually 2 tomes since i need 17 dex before lvl 9 (i have a +3 collecting dust)

15 con +2 tome +1 enhancement +6 item +2 ship = 26

13 wis +2 tome +6 item +1 exc. slotted somewhere -2 fire stance +2 ship = 22

8 int & cha, possibly +2 tomes if i have some spare and rest of the stuff for umd and trapmonkey'ing is already on my rogue so it's gonna be fine.


Feats (copied/pasted/arranged from character builder, curiously the free ranger feats don't appear (TWF @ 2 yada yada...))

Levels : 1-4 ranger, 5-7 monk, 8+ rogue

Level 1
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness

Level 3
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows

Level 5
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist

Level 6
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery

Level 7
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light

Level 9
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 12
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot

Level 15
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 17
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion

Level 18
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 20
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist


Skeelz
Max ranks in UMD, search, disable, open locks, jump, bluff
10 ranks in concentration
1 rank in tumble


Enhancements

Core :
Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Sneak Attack Training IV
Haste Boost IV
Extra Action Boost I

Thief acrobat & prereqs :
Improved Balance II
Improved Tumble II
Rogue Dexterity III
Faster Sneaking I
Thief-Acrobat II

Hit points & healing amp :
Human Adaptability Constitution I
Racial Toughness III
Human Improved Recovery II
Monk Improved Recovery I

Others :
Human Versatility IV
Sprint Boost I
Subtle Backstabbing I
Way of the Faithful Hound I


HPs
020 Heroic durability
024 Monk levels
032 Ranger levels
078 Rogue levels
010 Argo favor
160 base CON
022 Toughness
030 Enhancements
020 Toughness item
045 Shroud
030 GFL
020 Rage (spell)
040 Madstone proc or clickie
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531 madstoned, not all that bad


Healing amp
Human 20%
Monk 10%
Bracer in fire stance 25%
DT outfit 10%+20% (+destruction in sovereign)

217%, 239% with ship buff, not all that bad i just wanted over 200% for vampirism&healing curse


Sneak attack
7d6+12+8+1 = 45.5 average, 55.5 with rogue PL clickie

Stunning fist DC
Kinda meh, 30 base with stunner wraps + 6 wisdom = 36 well enough for vale/reaver's refuge. In Amrath & epics it's gonna suck but idc


Playstyle
Basically : stun what you can to get your SAs & +50% on helpless dmg, bluff what you can't stun. When the big evil guy comes in : hit DP clickie / rogue PL / haste+human damage boosts, manyshot, bluff the bad guy and enjoy

Healing curse + vampirism (either stonedust or holy/vampirism crafted wraps when you don't stun) with over 200% healing amp should give you some pretty good survivability.
Hjeal! scrolls are here if needed, as well as raise dead for your mates.

Keeping a few quarterstaves in you inventory might help vs unbypassable DRs, you can swing very fast with them.

The build can probably reach a decent AC while levelling, haven't calced that but thief acrobat & monk splash means decent AC at the very least.


Thoughts ?

[gingie]

Isn't Manyshot at lvl6 for a ranger?
Other than that minor issue, looks like it may be a fun toon to have. Its always nice to see new and veried toons being created. If they don't work out that can be dealt with, but its cool to try.

Oh, and should you take rogue lvl1 to max trap abilities from the start?

[Malky]

Isn't Manyshot at lvl6 for a ranger?
Other than that minor issue, looks like it may be a fun toon to have. Its always nice to see new and veried toons being created. If they don't work out that can be dealt with, but its cool to try.
Manyshot is selected here, not free from ranger levels

Oh, and should you take rogue lvl1 to max trap abilities from the start?
I would probaly gain a few skill points in the end, gonna test that when i get the time

Thanks

[Algaer]

Thanks

Epic fail.

These are the free feats you get when rolling a ranger per DDO character generation
L1 You would get Bow Strength
L2 you are given Rapid shot and TWF
L3 Diehard (you know so you don't bleed out after someone stabs you in the back or something.)
L6 is Many shot and ITWF
L7 is Improved Wild Empathy, not really sure if any rgr's actually use this feat at all.
L9 you get Evasion
L11 is Improved Precise shot and GTWF

[Algaer]

What is your goal for this toon? what skills, and with out taking more levels in rgr you would have to manually pick the ITWF and GTWF

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1
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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Female
(3 Monk \ 13 Rogue \ 4 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 236
Spell Points: 46 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 19
Will: 10

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             17                 24                   24
Dexterity            15                 18                   18
Constitution         15                 17                   17
Intelligence          8                 10                   10
Wisdom               13                 15                   15
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               2                  4                    5
Bluff                -1                  0                    1
Concentration         2                  3                    4
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    1
Disable Device       n/a                n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  0                    1
Heal                  1                  2                    3
Hide                  2                  4                    5
Intimidate           -1                  0                    1
Jump                  3                  7                    8
Listen                1                  2                    3
Move Silently         2                  4                    5
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                  0                    1
Search               -1                  0                    1
Spot                  1                  2                    3
Swim                  3                  7                    8
Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 11 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist

[Malky]

What is your goal for this toon? what skills, and with out taking more levels in rgr you would have to manually pick the ITWF and GTWF

For skills :
Max ranks in UMD, search, disable, open locks, jump, bluff
10 ranks in concentration
1 rank in tumble

and for feats :

Level 9
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 12
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot

Level 15
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


The 4 ranger levels were, at start, pretty much a filler between 13 rogue for SA and 3 monk for healing curse & healing amp enhancement. With 4 levels ram's might + the little favored damage is better than any other splash (except barb maybe, but alignment forbids barb here). Upon building i had a bit too many feats to spend so i went for manyshot as well, even if it's not 'free' as per se.

[Vyrn]

Epic fail.

Good job, atleast you called yourself out. Read his posts next time maybe? Reading comprehension ftw.