KOTC Tod set, how much extra damage vs evil outsiders?

[NaturalHazard]

HI was just wondering as someone who has the set, and might be tring into a paladin sometime in the future, how much extra damage does the set do if you got the kotc III ehancement? I looked on the wiki, couldnt find anything, searched on here, weak search fu.

[grgurius]

Not sure, but i think its 3d6.

Will have to check later when i log.

[eulogy098]

the TOD KOTC set adds 3d6 to your damage versus evil outsiders. A highly recommended alternate set is the Ravager set (for non evil outsiders) as it deals about 2d6 damage vs anything that bleeds (almost everything).

[NaturalHazard]

the TOD KOTC set adds 3d6 to your damage versus evil outsiders. A highly recommended alternate set is the Ravager set (for non evil outsiders) as it deals about 2d6 damage vs anything that bleeds (almost everything).

i got both but I cant wear both cause the kotc set is a belt as well?

yes its a belt so i guess in paladin life its the kotc set with the shintao set

then the ravager set with the shintao set for non evil outsiders?

[Junts]

HI was just wondering as someone who has the set, and might be tring into a paladin sometime in the future, how much extra damage does the set do if you got the kotc III ehancement? I looked on the wiki, couldnt find anything, searched on here, weak search fu.

You get 4d6 from kotc3 and 3d6 from the set bonus.

Its a stacking greater bane.

Ideally, you'd switch between it for evil outsiders and ravager for everything else. Conveniently, both belts are only +6 con and no gfl, and both rings are +6 str, so its pretty easy to do exactly that. Ravager, of course, deals 2d6 per swing to bleedable targets.

It also mean s the upgrade from pal17 to pal 18 is 5d6 vs evil outsiders: kotc2 only gets 2d6 instead of 4d6 and can't get the set bonus.

[Shade]

kotc is 3d6. Not stacking greater bane as it lacks the +4.

ravager is 1d12+1.. not 2d6 as 1 damage and 13 damage are possible.

Ravager was recently nerfed to no longer proc 100% on glancing blows making it mostly worse then a berserker set for thf =/
not sure if kotc set met a similar sad fate.

[NaturalHazard]

kotc is 3d6. Not stacking greater bane as it lacks the +4.

ravager is 1d12+1.. not 2d6 as 1 damage and 13 damage are possible.

Ravager was recently nerfed to no longer proc 100% on glancing blows making it mostly worse then a berserker set for thf =/
not sure if kotc set met a similar sad fate.

ouch!!! its still great for 2wf though i guess?

[Junts]

kotc is 3d6. Not stacking greater bane as it lacks the +4.

ravager is 1d12+1.. not 2d6 as 1 damage and 13 damage are possible.

Ravager was recently nerfed to no longer proc 100% on glancing blows making it mostly worse then a berserker set for thf =/
not sure if kotc set met a similar sad fate.

This isn't true, both my ravager and my tempest set proc on every glance on my thf bard, on live, right now.

I've also never seen a 1 or a 13, and I have multiple characters with ravager sets.

[Claymorep]

Only an addition to kotc tod set:

It deals 3d6 vs Evil Outsiders and Outsiders Evil... (infact it does damage to tieflings too) on gb too (as all pladins extra damage). As I wrote in some other treads it's all as intended infact I submitted a lot of bug reports about this and aswers were always:

Tieflings aren't Evil outsiders, but native "evil" outsiders so kotc pre don't adds on them...
Kotc tod set is working as intended as tieflings are autsiders and they are evil...

From a DM perspective that played years in D&D all worlds (Planescape included) I can't understand where is the difference between a devil/demon born in lower planes and a half-demon/devil born in the same plane, so I convinced myself that in this manner only "half" damage is applied against "half" blooded.

Please don't start a discussion about "natives" as a lot of us know very well what's written in D&D rulebooks, I wanted only add my expirience on DDO scenario.

[kernal42]

ravager is 1d12+1.. not 2d6 as 1 damage and 13 damage are possible.

Damage of 1 is inconsistent with both 2d6 and 1d12+1.

-Kernal

[Shade]

Damage of 1 is inconsistent with both 2d6 and 1d12+1.

-Kernal

Typo. 2-13. Tested it heavily and have screenshots of 13 damage and 2 damage.

Maybe it has some weird weighting, 2 and 13 are extremely rare, but they happen.

[Shade]

This isn't true, both my ravager and my tempest set proc on every glance on my thf bard, on live, right now.

mm I only did a quick test, but saw some hits without it..

I'll do a more thorough test to confirm.

[eulogy098]

Ravager was recently nerfed to no longer proc 100% on glancing blows making it mostly worse then a berserker set for thf =/
not sure if kotc set met a similar sad fate.

I don't know where you got your facts about this, but you are flat wrong. Ravager is still 100% glancing proc and always has been.