Curse removal; whose responsibility?

[rkazman]

I was tanking a hard vod the other night on my human "samurai" build 12f/6p/2m and I was getting my own curses when I noticed, or when the cleric yelled at me But sometimes I was getting cursed right after another and I went down, and the raid kinda went down on a slow death. Now i know one of the advantages going wf is arcane healing (repairing) so curses aren't a big deal, but i kind of like my guy not like a big robot If i was just doing dps I would totally get my own curses. I guess I am wondering other people's opinion: if a fleshie is tanking, whose responsibility is it for getting curses?

[Buggss]

....Maybe it's from my PnP days when we all pulled together as a team, each helped the team in whatever way he/she could (who am I kidding, my groups were always all guys), and there was no such thing as a 'stack of pots'.

A very nice sentiment and being a 20+ year pnp player I thoroughly agree. Unfortunately, although the basics are the same (mostly) this game is considerably removed from pnp and so are many of the roles of the various classes.

Shame but it does make the game more interesting.

[bendover]

I was tanking a hard vod the other night on my human "samurai" build 12f/6p/2m and I was getting my own curses when I noticed, or when the cleric yelled at me But sometimes I was getting cursed right after another and I went down, and the raid kinda went down on a slow death. Now i know one of the advantages going wf is arcane healing (repairing) so curses aren't a big deal, but i kind of like my guy not like a big robot If i was just doing dps I would totally get my own curses. I guess I am wondering other people's opinion: if a fleshie is tanking, whose responsibility is it for getting curses?

Primarily yours, secondary his.

[SisAmethyst]

Well, not from Sarlona but I would say if you notice your curse, try to get your own curse removed. In the second the Cleric need to remove your curse he can't throw in the same second a heal towards you. Both eat on the SP of the Cleric and that resource is limited. I think every Cleric will as well throw a 'remove curse' if necessary but I guess general notion I got till now was that you are main responsible to get rid of the curses no matter if you are tank or fighter.

[DMCain]

Curses? Well, since Turbine, in it's 'infinite' wisdom, decided to put them on a timer I generally ignore them. In most cases they are nothing more than a minor annoyance anyway.

[TheDearLeader]

Curses? Well, since Turbine, in it's 'infinite' wisdom, decided to put them on a timer I generally ignore them. In most cases they are nothing more than a minor annoyance anyway.

Healing Curses, like the one in VoD, the raid the OP is talking about, have no timer.

[Jaid314]

Healing Curses, like the one in VoD, the raid the OP is talking about, have no timer.

it's not like they'd need one. i don't think i've seen a ton of people who would survive 2 minutes of VoD with absolutely no incoming healing whatsoever.

anyways, if you're tanking sully on a fleshy, imo you need to be able to last long enough that getting cursed twice in a row isn't a death sentence. whether you do that with hit points, AC, DR, or some other method (i hear the cloak of curses casts remove curse on you as a guard effect?) if you can't survive long enough to get through even a double cursing easily, do you really think you're going to have a successful raid with you as the tank?

don't get me wrong, i've seen fleshy types tank sully, and do a great job of it. but they were prepared for it. from the sound of things, i'm going to guess that you weren't...

[NinjaNeed]

As a tank it is your prime responsibility to keep the boss hitting you. As such all you should be worrying about is keeping agro. The healers should cure your curses.

As a dps it is your own responsibility to cure your curses. If you own madstone boots or are going to be raging then buy the House K guild pots.

[Kominalito]

As a tank it is your prime responsibility to keep the boss hitting you. As such all you should be worrying about is keeping agro. The healers should cure your curses.

no.

As a dps it is your own responsibility to cure your curses. If you own madstone boots or are going to be raging then buy the House K guild pots.

yes.

[Darkrok]

As a tank it is your prime responsibility to keep the boss hitting you. As such all you should be worrying about is keeping agro. The healers should cure your curses.

As a dps it is your own responsibility to cure your curses. If you own madstone boots or are going to be raging then buy the House K guild pots.

This.

That situation though is fairly rare and fairly unique to U9 and after. Pre-u9 if you were a fleshy tanking VoD you usually shield block/intim'd or else had an insane AC. It was just easier and lower maintenance. Post-U9's a whole new ballgame with that and I can see fleshy tanks needing the healer to watch their curses for them in order to keep agro.

[Praya20]

Your responsibility and yours alone, its a VoD everyone SHOULD have pots.

Although seeing as your fleshie is STILL your responsibility to ASK the healers to reove your curse IF they can (Some will NOT carry the spell for it coz its a drag on sp not needed?. But of course you still try to get your own on top of that.

[bkasavan]

Your responsibility and yours alone, its a VoD everyone SHOULD have pots.

Although seeing as your fleshie is STILL your responsibility to ASK the healers to reove your curse IF they can (Some will NOT carry the spell for it coz its a drag on sp not needed?. But of course you still try to get your own on top of that.

I sorta agree with that. On my cleric, i do NOT carry the spell, but i did (once a while ago) buy a stack of curse pots, and if i see a tank, or a new player (who said so, but we forgot to tell him to get pots) with a curse i will get it. If its a nice player, who forgets his curse, ill get him to. Ill only not get the curses of the people who annoyed me.

[Habreno]

VoD Curse Removal:

WF Tank: My Cleric doesn't care-Arcanes Repairing fix that issue.
Fleshie Tank: Remove Curse Wand main hand. Keeping him examined helps for curse removal.

Non-tanks. Get your own ******* curse. That's not my job.

[Chette]

Never assume somebody is going to get your curse for you, it is primarily your responsibility. If you are going to lose aggro in the time it takes you to drink a curse potion, then what do you think is going to happen if you get chained? You should not be hate tanking if you have such a small margin over the rest of the DPS.

That being said, those responsible for healing the tank should keep a stack of standard curse potions on their hotbar that they can use on others. If they see the tank get cursed when they are below 1/2 health, or right after another curse, they should throw a remove curse immediately followed by a heal. It is their responsibility to take care of the tank when they can't get their own curse, but not on a regular basis.