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    Level 15 third lifer, fvs.
    Progressively worse not on my end and not the connection now issues indeed.
    Making some farming runs for maenya's fists solo eyes of stone one second I'm full health with shield block and dod proc and dotting away merrily and immune While my 20 seconds of godmode tick down.
    Watching those zeros crawl by, then boom I'm a soulstone.
    Just full health to dead.

    Not normal, not an fps drop, not a ping issue( at least as far as router traffic grapher and ingame connection indicator are concerned. No death occcurence in the log either, just damage, effects removed from me, more damage both incoming and outgoing, more effects removed, more damage... It's like it couldn't even decide I was dead and unable to still take hits.

    So on to dq2 which I've been soloing with his toon on hard since hitting 15, twice already. And a few runs back at 14 and 13 on normal.

    Go in last night, and can't get heals off on time, taking damage from dead things and ultimately wipe. Okay I say, guess I can drop down to norm for completion if the servers not going to cooperate.
    Try it on norm and get eaten alive again because health keeps dropping in multihit chunks instead of as damage is coming in, and quickened heal isn't going off. The cooldown starts, he animation plays, the sp decreases, no hp restoration. Spamming hotkey tied to spell has Zero effect.

    Never drop below mid twenty fps.
    Either the clients not handling the events as they occur, or the server isn't.
    And bursty numbers and profs with otherwise fluid interaction screams desynch due to server overload to me.

    Especially when it progresses to simply trying nice safe easy slayers all by oneself in the desert or gianthold.
    Being stuck rubberbanding exactly the same way one does on ladders sometimes while simply running around...

    <Insert creative vitriol and invective here>

    completely unpredictable, no client detectable indication it's coming, and world ending when it does.
    I seriously hope they added more logging in the hotfix, because this can't keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andbr22 View Post
    Well never got soo much Lag until last update.
    My favorite is eDQ2 -> We beat DQ, she port back to flanks and spawn efretii, we beat last efretti and everyone die...

    For sure there is definitly something wrong. But usually I was connecting this with savants / new spells (ice storm, ice DoT, elect DoT, radiant DoT) and FPS go dow dirastically.
    I think you are on to something with this. Running VoD the other day, caster was spamming ice storm and clouds all over the place. The lag was so bad that the clerics couldn't get heals off. It has literally been so long since I have been in a failed VoD that I don't even remember when it was. This group wiped because the clerics were obviously trying to heal, but the lag was so bad that it wasn't sticking.

    Ran it later without the spammed AoE and DoT spells and it went smooth as glass.
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    Lag is WAI.
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    Lag is totally OP. Nerf the lag!!!
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    Default Low level TR

    I didn't try to play Wed night, but Thursday night and Friday night were I was pretty much unable to play because of lag. It took me 24 minutes and about 3 relogs to complete Repossession. And I died once because I couldn't move, but apparently the gargoyles could and they killed me before I even knew we were fighting. This morning has been better, but I just got stuck on a load screen trying to see Dryden and it took me three attmepts to get back in. I have a fairly new and decent PC (less than a year old) and a cable connection. I am more than happy to blame Time Warner, but I think Turbine deserves some blame as well


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    I'm curious if crafting is possibly responsible. All that deconstructing/shard crafting. That and the spell pass/Savants are the two major changes that might have some effect. As for Ice Storm/DoTs, Ice Storm has always caused a bit more lag so I'm not sure it's that. And I've been getting this lag in parties without Arcanes as well.

    But yeah, lag has been much worse. I've had a lot of cases where I throw a Heal with Quicken on, go on Heal timer, and then it just never actually heals.
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    Yeah, I had a series of Abbot attempts completely anihilated due to lag. It wasn't just everyone lagging in an inferno or over goggles, either, there were a lot of strange bugs caused by the lag that made it impossible. The inferno curse wouldn't go away after a remove pot was drunk, my pl ioun stone stopped working after the first lagged inferno which let me die later when I foolishly though I was safe from the next one (killed, despite 29 charges remaining). Other behavioral bugs were the abbot casting inferno twice in such a short period that the platform never cleared and casting encasement while he was casting inferno, catching the one person who had made it out of the laggy inferno and into the water.
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    Thumbs down

    been experiencing it here also.

    healers saying thier spells weren't going off on thier screen, choppy freezes, delays, etc...

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    Come play DDO where lag is a feature not an issue.
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    Ran some in gianthold today, and twice jumped off a high ramp, switched to ff mid-leap, landed, and rubberbanded all the way back up.

    Actually between U9 and the hotfix I didn't even have that much trouble with it beyond that I noticed it. And prior to that it was unusual for me to lag, period- and I run on the highest graphics settings. So if I'm having trouble, I know it's bad.

    And considering the number of my guildies that have dc'd every two minutes lately, and the number of quests we've completed with 4 or 5 when we started out full, I think I'm taking a break until this gets fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrancisP.Fancypants View Post
    Ran some in gianthold today, and twice jumped off a high ramp, switched to ff mid-leap, landed, and rubberbanded all the way back up.

    Actually between U9 and the hotfix I didn't even have that much trouble with it beyond that I noticed it. And prior to that it was unusual for me to lag, period- and I run on the highest graphics settings. So if I'm having trouble, I know it's bad.

    And considering the number of my guildies that have dc'd every two minutes lately, and the number of quests we've completed with 4 or 5 when we started out full, I think I'm taking a break until this gets fixed.
    This actually happened to me regularly pre-u9. Maybe I'm just special, but I always assumed that it took a fraction of a second to calculate the new fall speed and that is was reflected in the rubber banding back up.
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    Default Ah well, looks like it's break time.

    Well, i've only missed a handfull of days playing this game in the last 2 years, maybe a day here or a day there at most, but.

    I just logged on to lead a series of raids for the guild (a little weekly event i run for fun with guildies), and even just getting movement, having the guild motd come up in guild chat, and seeing services on the boat were so lagged in such a choppy sporadic fashion that i could only really cancel the run.

    I am taking a break, till this is sorted. I can't be dc-ing in and out as main heals for 8 raids in a row.

    I can't be casting heals that don't land over and over and expect people to not lose patience after 6 hours of it happening.

    And i can't be attempting super zerg xp grind on my current TR (what i do when i'm not raiding) with crazy random lag related affects destroying all semblance of order and sanity while i'm doing it with the hours i allocate to this game each day unless i want to be adding stress to myself, instead of 'relaxing' and 'having fun'.

    Too frustrating, i'm taking a break till something is sorted (i'll check after the update 10 is turned on in case something there might sort it, or something done during it's 'switch on' addresses it.)

    I hope it's soon, i have 7 more lives to do on my current project for the flames sake~!

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    At least the major lag that seems to go with healing gives me an added challenge in the quest now You never quite know when the heal is going to land if it does at all.

    One night when we were in a quest the whole group hit lag that we'd walk about 2 steps, and go back one....when we finally gave up on that, we all tried to get up to the airships, it wouldn't work... so me being the smart one clicked on it about 5 times then gave up. We went out to do slayers a good 5 min later, I got ported to my ship....5 times in a row
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    Quote Originally Posted by jradnut View Post
    Call me crazy, but after nosing thru several threads like this, Im starting to sense a pattern. Seems that the harder the difficulty the more lag interferance...just guessing though as I've not done epics lately and not experiencing much lag.

    Occasionally get that syrupy feel where I attack 6 times and strike 3 times, but even that doesn't happen too often for me.
    Nope,
    Random quests - even in the harbor - or just running through house K can get you to stutter. But, my other client on the same computer is running fine.
    It isn't like the memory leak where the client just crashes either as I can continue to play.
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    lol, I didnt give it a QA pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Helmet View Post
    Nope,
    Random quests - even in the harbor - or just running through house K can get you to stutter. But, my other client on the same computer is running fine.
    It isn't like the memory leak where the client just crashes either as I can continue to play.
    I had crippling lag solo'ing Korthos quests on my TR Wiz. Actually failed in Redemption because Heyton took all the aggro (somehow?) and died. Probably going to the same as pSINNa and just cancel my VIP for a while, check back in a few months and see if things are getting better or continuing to get worse.
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    Thinking about it from a database perspective, there are 2 changes that were made that would seem to just be horrendous for performance.

    1. Essence Deconstruction -> Deleting 1 record (or making it inactive) and then creating 5 records + the stack record. Not that bad except for the fact that people are having to crank through 40-50 greaters at a time.

    2. Khyber/Syberis shards being increased from 1000 to 10,000. The lookup/update on that transaction is probably painful.

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    On a side note, I've also seen a LOT of horrible fails since U9 in Epic quests that we used to stomp through before. I don't know what it is, I could name a few things, but it's become incredibly frustrating, along with the way casters are now compared to melee. I miss the well oiled machine that was pre-U9 Epics.

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    It's not just you- the lag is pretty bad on Argo, too.
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    (Appologise ahead of time for not reading the entire thread)

    Earlier today, in a normal shroud run. At the beginning of Phase 1, while killing the first few mobs before the portals start to spawn, the entire raid group experianced a 30 second lag spike...at the same time. Durring Phase 2, there was 5-10 second lag for the entire group, the lag was so bad we couldn't prep the 4 bosses, our DPS was lagging so bad we couldn't penetrate their regeneration. We failed a NORMAL Shroud due to lag. Normal Shroud...

    The lag got better for about a day and a half, after the lag fix patch....and now it's gotten much much worse.

    I have more examples of lag issues, but don't feel like writing them down at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seobanio View Post
    Yeah same symptoms here. Hard TOD part 3 everything fine, tank full health then boom dead. Elite shroud everything fine, full hp bar boom dead. In other places we have had even worse, where you can see death coming but quickened heal spells won't go off.
    I personally disconnected during the Hard TOD and the Elite shroud was completely unplayable at several points. That's about 50k xp me an bitz would be closer to capping. Hopefully they get this worked out soon so want those completions.

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