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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeelala View Post
    wait Divine Power gives you DR like a favored soul lvl 20 on a multiclass?
    Your blocking DR = BAB/2

    I believe that is what the reference was to, not the capstone.

    And for what its worth, the Evoker build is amazing for soloing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aristarchus1000 View Post
    Well, if you have DoD:

    DR:
    20 from DoD Proc
    15 Hound Shield
    10 from 20 BaB after Divine Power
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    45

    So pretty close to 50.

    If you add things like Lifeshield and Demonic Shield Procs, it is possible to effectively break 50.
    *nods* That's good. My human evoker with hound shield has a blocking DR of ~28. I didn't know about the DoD proc. nor factor in the HP procs. Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Crann View Post
    Your blocking DR = BAB/2

    I believe that is what the reference was to, not the capstone.

    And for what its worth, the Evoker build is amazing for soloing.
    Yep - Divine Power does bump your blockign DR while it's running and Yep, i love my evoker. I have yet to find a situation it doesn't work well for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crann View Post
    Your blocking DR = BAB/2

    I believe that is what the reference was to, not the capstone.

    And for what its worth, the Evoker build is amazing for soloing.
    Actually it's (BAB/2)+2, or +12, so that would be a 47 blocking DR.

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    dod does not stack with fvs DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellkor View Post
    dod does not stack with fvs DR
    yup, the fvs static dr was not included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illiain View Post
    Actually it's (BAB/2)+2, or +12, so that would be a 47 blocking DR.
    ah, good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aristarchus1000 View Post
    yup, the fvs static dr was not included.
    Which is why I actually prefer a WF 18FvS/2Mnk for epic solo'ing.

    If you use the DoD all the time (which i do) then the WF dr isn't that big of a deal. Going 2 monk effectively frees up 3 feats, 2 gained from monk levels and 1 from not taking adamantine body.

    On top of the feats you gain evasion, a stance that gives a plus 1 DC to all spells as well as +2 (or is it +3) to all saves. Note that the "blocking DR" calculations are the exact same as pure since the DoD overwrites FvS dr.

    Now the big loss of 18/2 is losing those spells, it usually hurts to only have 1 level 9 spell. But on a solo only focused build you can pass up mass heal and just take Implosion.

    I find that avoiding big spikes of spell dmg when solo'ing epics is more valuable than a free cure light wounds on WF platform. Just my 2 cents anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    To each his own. I prefer searing light.
    in voodoos defense, free searing lights make for more mana for healing oneself. It's probably pretty close to a wash. Unless you can get more effective as offensive casting than you can at healing (what you're better you should stick to)
    good at business

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    Cool tks

    Hey guys, tanks all for the advices... Im going for a WF 20FvS 20 on this life. On this way i can test the natural DR and DoD for the final choice on the 3rd life.

    Im going to Battle cuz i have a wizard and the playstyle will be pretty much the same.

    Again, tks all for help.

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    I dont think the DoD is worth giving up the ability to kite effectively! Repent! whilst you still can!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellkor View Post
    I dont think the DoD is worth giving up the ability to kite effectively! Repent! whilst you still can!
    Is he giving that up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    Is he giving that up?
    Only if he can't Tumble/Leap of Faith Kite.

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    You can tumble with the DoD proc on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrix View Post
    You can tumble with the DoD proc on
    Yeah that's what Crann and I are kinda talking around.

    Does he lose the ability to kite? I don't think so, nor does Crann specifically at the end game due to tumble and leap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrix View Post
    You can tumble with the DoD proc on
    I thought this was "fixed" in the last update. even if it wasn't, tumbling is not effective kiting in my book! I never liked DoD because of that. but to each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    Feats: (1) Toughness, (3) Weapon Proficiency feat, (6) Maximize, (9) Empower, (12) Quicken, (15) Improved Crit then (18) CHOICE
    I just LR'd my FvS into something basically exactly like this (Human for PA + Extend), without seeing this. I'm glad to see it now, though. It felt kind of insane to be spending a feat for a single martial weapon proficiency, but I don't see much alternative besides WF for Greataxe (which wasn't an option for an LR).

    I wish non-WF religions actually got useful weapons. A one-hander is almost completely pointless when it takes dumping almost all Divine-casting ability to get viable TWF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkyle View Post
    I just LR'd my FvS into something basically exactly like this (Human for PA + Extend), without seeing this. I'm glad to see it now, though. It felt kind of insane to be spending a feat for a single martial weapon proficiency, but I don't see much alternative besides WF for Greataxe (which wasn't an option for an LR).

    I wish non-WF religions actually got useful weapons. A one-hander is almost completely pointless when it takes dumping almost all Divine-casting ability to get viable TWF.
    They need to fix Master's Touch so you can scroll it while wielding a two hander. Then you could train up UMD. 11 ranks +Chr should be more than enough for scrolling.

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