The Citadel (20Ftr SD) Complete Build Out w/ HP, AC, Gear, Feats, Skill, Enh et al

[Da3vid]

If your couning barb Past life Active then triggering that is another - to AC

Woops realise what you ment now ignore this post

For others, I'm counting the 1 hp per level but not the Rage ability. Though, it is good to note that that it is handy to activate a Rage potion + Madstone clicky + past life Rage to build up some aggro, pull your target to a good spot, then turn on your stance.

[Baahb3]

I have not tested this but did they really allow evasion from monks to work while wearing any armor and using a shield?

If so that is as dumb as it was when they allowed it wearing heavy armor.

[Da3vid]

I have not tested this but did they really allow evasion from monks to work while wearing any armor and using a shield?

If so that is as dumb as it was when they allowed it wearing heavy armor.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Evasion

These are pen and paper rules. It can't be any armor, it can only be light. It is the same evasion that rogues and rangers get.

[Da3vid]

One of the problems I've noticed as a fighter/monk is that the game will not stop reminding me that I'm not centered. Constant... reminders...

[Da3vid]

This build is super easy to level. The fighter/monk combination gives you so many feats and having them packed on early on gives you a big advantage. The past life barbarian + toughness gives you a ton of HP and Power Attack gives you great dps. The dragonmark feats are actually pretty helpful, though I'd never take them if it wasn't for Chimera's Fang. One thing I cannot figure out...

it wouldn't let me take the Lesser Dragonmark at lvl 3? I ended up take Berserker's Fury at 3 and Lesser Dragonmark at 6. I must have overlooked a lvl pre-req of some sort?

[Quikster]

This build is super easy to level. The fighter/monk combination gives you so many feats and having them packed on early on gives you a big advantage. The past life barbarian + toughness gives you a ton of HP and Power Attack gives you great dps. The dragonmark feats are actually pretty helpful, though I'd never take them if it wasn't for Chimera's Fang. One thing I cannot figure out...

it wouldn't let me take the Lesser Dragonmark at lvl 3? I ended up take Berserker's Fury at 3 and Lesser Dragonmark at 6. I must have overlooked a lvl pre-req of some sort?

I think the prereq is lvl 6, but id have to check in game to be sure. Anywho, you got it now so

[Da3vid]

I rolled up a lvl 4 fighter to spec him with Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave and Quick Draw to test out. It does seem to make quite a difference in attacks per second, though I didn't do a very scientific test. I wonder if coupling this with Intimidate will generate an increase in DPS? Has anyone done more extensive testing of this? It could potentially be worthwhile switching out the 2nd and 3rd Toughness and Improved Shield Bash to get Cleave, Great Cleave and Quick Draw.

[NoidRoid]

Two things I saw:

1) Inspire Heroics doesnt stack with GH for saves, maybe that's a typo and you meant Holy Aura which would give you the numbers posted.

2) You're counting 30 hp from barb PLF which I assume means 10 passive feat + 20 active feat, not 3x barb lives. PLF gives 5 HP, not 20 like the description says. It's a bug and I just double checked my blitz build to see if they fixed it, they haven't.

[ImFour20]

listing 28 reflex. i thought it was 35 or more to tank echrono boss

[Da3vid]

Two things I saw:

1) Inspire Heroics doesnt stack with GH for saves, maybe that's a typo and you meant Holy Aura which would give you the numbers posted.

2) You're counting 30 hp from barb PLF which I assume means 10 passive feat + 20 active feat, not 3x barb lives. PLF gives 5 HP, not 20 like the description says. It's a bug and I just double checked my blitz build to see if they fixed it, they haven't.

1) You're right about Holy Aura, good catch. I only remembered it was +10 from in game.

2) Interesting... you seem to be right. I'm playing this build and went and I added up all the HP from every other feat/enhancement and compared it to my current hp... only left 5 unaccounted for for Berserker's Fury.

[Da3vid]

listing 28 reflex. i thought it was 35 or more to tank echrono boss

Listing 28 where? The build has more than that even before buffs. It'll hit 43 during raids.

[ImFour20]

Listing 28 where? The build has more than that even before buffs. It'll hit 43 during raids.

apologies. was reading the quoted text

[KelticKing]

What is the "GS" referring to where it says UMD: +6 GS, is that a Greensteel item b/c I dont see it listed under the gear you posted.

[Rydin_Dirtay]

What is the "GS" referring to where it says UMD: +6 GS, is that a Greensteel item b/c I dont see it listed under the gear you posted.

He has Air Guard Greensteel goggles, aka Triple Air goggles. Air-Air-Air, and will have +6 to Charisma skills, of which UMD is one.