Lookin for help with a build idea

[Aeolwind]

Was goofing off tonight on my fighter. Just finished a LR fixing an inebriated LR I'd made a couple months back. Don't drink and reincarnate kids, you'll end up with both Khopesh and Bastard sword feats & imp critical bludgeoning.

The Setup!
Anyway, I'd made a Bodyfeeder of Lesser Vampirism weapon. Coupling this with Levik's and the shield feats, I discovered I was rather resilient. I pondered the healing amp builds of Solar Phoenix et al, but I decided that what made it work for my fighter was the Cove Cavalry Plate coupled with the Bodyfeeder & the new shield feats. So I thought to myself if I could skip the Monk portion of the new Phoenix and go rogue instead mixing it with fighter. Then I saw how crappy the skill layout would be and decided Monk nor Rogue would work. Monk might for the extra 37.5% amp, but I decided that wouldn't be worth the capstone & giving up shields all together (for ME and this concept at least). I finally landed on Monk since I would need DT anyway & DT Plate kinda sucks when compared to evasion.

Base ideas: Shield feats with tower shield (Levik's), extreme crit profile weapons (Scimitar, 14-20 with Kensei3), Monk Dil for extra amp, DT Robe with 10, 20 amp & earth guard (kinda makes up for the Cove Plate Proc), Triple Pos GS Scim with 30% amp, TWF Chain sans OTWF, Main hand Bodyfeeder of Lesser Vampirism scimitar & throw in 2 monk for evasion since I'm giving up the Cove plate & couldn't have the UMD to use Butter Knife +1 that was halfling only.

Worth the effort, or is it a lot of wasted GS mats?

Amp:
20 Monk Dil
10 Monk
20 Human
10 DT
20 DT
30 Triple Pos
15 Fleshmaker
312%


Strength - 16 base, 5 level ups, 2 tome, 3 enhancements, +7 item = 33 (Req for sucking less), Rage 2, PS 8 = 43
Dex - 15 base, 2 tome, 1 enh, 7 item = 25 (Req for TWF)
Wis - 13 base, 2 tome, 6 item = 21 (Req for Monk Dil)
Con - 14 base, 2 tome, 6 item - 22 (Low, but workable)

hp
192 base
66 - Toughness x3
60 - Enhancements
120 - Con
20 - Minos
45 - GS
10 - DV
30 - GFL
___________
543hp

AC (Stuff I have available)
10 base
4 dex (Levik's max, no room for enh)
6 Armor
9 shield
3 bark potion
5 Protection
1 Alch Armor
1 Alch Shield
2 dodge
1 haste
_________
41

Intim
23 base
3 - +6 cha
5 - GS Con Opp
15- item
2 - CFS
2 - Good Luck
3 - SF Intim
4 - Enh
___________
57 (Enough for most trash)

[ProdigalGuru]

I could be wrong, but I do not think the Monk Dilly amp stacks with normal Monk amp.

Also, why would you want TWF with shield proficiencies?

And doesn't a shield negate Evasion?

[Ullysses]

Monk dil doesn't stack with actual monk levels.

[Mistycball]

The cove cavalry plate at tier 3 its a medium armor(full mithral) and with it you cant use evasion.

[unbongwah]

Amp:
20 Monk Dil
10 Monk

(A) You can't take both HE dilly & regular monk heal amp and (B) first rank of monk heal amp is at monk 3 and IIUC you're only taking a monk 2 splash.

Wis - 13 base, 2 tome, 6 item = 21 (Req for Monk Dil)

It is possible to start WIS 11, take a +2 WIS tome, and swap dilly feat to monk (or cleric) afterward (or so I'm told - never tested it myself). Take a different dilly at 1st lvl and swap after your tome. That gives you two extra pts to put elsewhere. Maybe think about bumping up INT so you can get CE.

4 dex (Levik's max, no room for enh)

If you're going Stalwart Defender, you get +1 MDB to tower shields per rank of SD; so if this is a monk 2 / ftr 18 SD III build, you'll have 7 MDB w/out enhs.

[Aeolwind]

The cove cavalry plate at tier 3 its a medium armor(full mithral) and with it you cant use evasion.

If you'll notice, I swapped that for DT robe.

I could be wrong, but I do not think the Monk Dilly amp stacks with normal Monk amp.

I [i[knew[/i] that, but what I get for posting so late, thanks for reminding me.

Also, why would you want TWF with shield proficiencies?

You don't need or want a shield full time. Sometimes, you want to be useful, like raids

And doesn't a shield negate Evasion?

Not according to any description I've found.

(A) You can't take both HE dilly & regular monk heal amp and (B) first rank of monk heal amp is at monk 3 and IIUC you're only taking a monk 2 splash.

3am posts > Me =(

It is possible to start WIS 11, take a +2 WIS tome, and swap dilly feat to monk (or cleric) afterward (or so I'm told - never tested it myself). Take a different dilly at 1st lvl and swap after your tome. That gives you two extra pts to put elsewhere. Maybe think about bumping up INT so you can get CE.

Oooo, good call. Now to figure out what feat to kick out for CE.

If you're going Stalwart Defender, you get +1 MDB to tower shields per rank of SD; so if this is a monk 2 / ftr 18 SD III build, you'll have 7 MDB w/out enhs.

Kensei 3, only way to get the crit threat to a 14 on a scimitar.

[unbongwah]

Well, that would help explain why your AC is so bad...why would you play a S&B Kensai "tank," though?

[Aeolwind]

Well, that would help explain why your AC is so bad...why would you play a S&B Kensai "tank," though?

I think it was Quikster that first put the bug in my ear when I read his post about his fighter. Kensei that was more geared towards tanking. I unfortunately don't have the gear to throw at a good AC build to hit the 80+ mark. I can push about 72 before I LR'd my fighter. Kensei adds the stank on the to keep me from being a wasted slot.

All in all it is just a concept honestly. The Shield feats, stacked with bodyfeeder/lifeshield/Con Opp (So far, they all stack) and vampirism hitting for 2-3 a tick could be surprisingly unkillable. Even with Bodyfeeder, +1 vamp and Demonic shield I didn't have to blow a hireling just for a Vale run. Stacking in guards/DR and absolving yourself of AC while letting the temp hp procs protect your life while vamp fills it back up. RoR, Mabar Cloak, maybe a GS guard item or two. Leaving arcane/divine spells potential for large damage about the only thing that could take you out. Running with the devils might be a challenge, but Rainbow or Sins could be a cake walk.

[Cloista]

I've been playing with the idea of a DR/Guard/Shield Mastery S&B tank instead of an AC tank for a while, Warforged, Fighter 12+/Paladin 6+ (For the improved threat Divine Righteousness/Sacrifice brings) split, considering an Evasion splash of either Rogue (for UMD) or Monk (For 2 more feats) aswell, but not sure yet. Any ideas?

[unbongwah]

Warforged, Fighter 12+/Paladin 6+

I posted something along those lines here.