28 Point "Epic Sorc"

[elricken]

Someone recently asked me to come up with an epic CC build for them on a 28 point human sorc... so here goes.

STR 8
DEX 8
CON 16
INT 10
WIS 8
CHA 18

All levels into CHA

Feats:
Maximize
SF: Conjuration
Empower
Heighten
Spell Pen
Toughness
Spell Focus Enchantment
Greater Spell Focus Enchantment

Skills :
Max concentraion and umd, everything else is gravy.
Other good skills to grab might be, intimidate, diplomacy, balance

Basic Gearing -

Head: Minos Legens
Goggles: GS Goggles with sp and cha skills
Bracers: GS HP with whatever you want (Tho I would really recommend making the Concentration +13 or whatever HP item, Air Fire Water maybe?)
Gloves: Gloves of the Glacier, Titan Gloves
Trinket: HOGF
Belt: Water Savant
Boots: Kundrak Delving/Whatever else you want
Cloak: Stormreavers napkin (Consider replacing with epic silver concord)
Neck: Superior Pot 6 neck/Shintao Cord
DT: Con 6 + GFL + Whatev else you want on the sov rune (Spell pen and potency are good)
Ring 1: Telvi's Touch with +2 Con
Ring 2: Band of Siberys/Ann Velsings Band with +2 Cha
Weapons: Dreamspitter, Lore/Potency Combos/Spell Pen

Enhancements : (Just the important bits)
Max Cold Damage
Max Toughness
Max Cha
Max Spell Pen
Water Savant 3
Capstone (duh)
1 Rank in wand and scroll mastery
+ WHATEVER ELSE you want. If you want force and healing amp go for it, if you want lit enhancements for eladars then fantastic. But im not gonna lay out every single possibility here.

Basic Gear Stats:
HP: Should be 350 Plus
SP: A little less than 3k

Cha Score - 18 base, 2 tome, 3 exceptional, 6 Item, 4 Enhancements, 5 Levels = A nice and lovely 38 standing cha

DCs - 10 Base, 14 Mod, 1 Spell Focus, 9 Spell Level - 34 on our base DCs

Enchantment DCs - 10 Base, 14 Mod, 2 Spell Focus, 2 Spell Focus Feats, 9 Spell Levvel - 37. Plenty to land those mass holds and discos with liberal spamming of Crushing Despair.

Spell Penetration - 20 Base, 2 Feat, 3 Enhancments, 0-3 Item - 25-28. It will get the job done in most things, but you will have to rely on web for those pesky high sr mobs.

Advanced/Epic Gear setup
Head: Epic Helm of Frost (Slotted with GFL)
Goggles: GS Goggles with sp and cha skills (Conc Op is ideal but not necessary)
Bracers: GS HP with whatever you want (Min II or Concentration Hp is ideal but again not necessary)
Gloves: Titan Gloves, Abbot Gloves, Gloves of the Glacier
Trinket: Litany/Eardweller
Belt: Water Savant
Boots: Epic boots of Corrosion (Slotted with Toughness or Good Luck/ Kundrak Delving (Fom is still a great hot swap when needed)
Cloak: Epic Envenomed (Heavy fort)
Neck: Torc/Epic Torc/Noxious Embers/Shamans Beads/Shintao Cord
DT: Heal Amp 10%, Heal Amp 20%, Greater Spell Pen 8/Greater Potency 7/ Blue Dragon Scales/ Epic Robe of Dissonance/ Epic Robe of the Diablolist
Ring 1: Telvi's Touch with +2 Con
Ring 2: Band of Siberys/Ann Velsings Band with +2 Cha
Weapons: Staff of the Petitioner/Skiver/Potency/Spell Pen/Triple Absorbtion crafted shroud weapons

HP: Should be 450 +
SP: About 3k

40 Standing Cha (44 Buffed with boat shrine and yugo pot) = 35(37) on most DCS

DC 40 Enchantment Spells buffed with a yugo pot and boat shrine (Masshold God)

Anyways, it's not perfect and it's obviously subjective to opinion but there ya go.

Will be able to reliably self heal through scrolls and land all the CC you need (Masshold, Disco, Web, Irresistible Dance, etc). Very excellent nuking power as a cold savant, and decent insta death using drain + finger or symbol of death + wail.

Feel free to add your suggestions or critique, but realize that I probably don't care what you (as posters) think (with the exception of the person I made this build for lol).

[Teen]

Very nice ty for the help now let me get my flawless siberys together and get the right feats

[TheDearLeader]

Enhancements : (Just the important bits)
Max Cold Damage - 19 AP
Max Toughness - 3 AP
Max Cha - 12 AP
Max Spell Pen - 12 AP
Water Savant 3 - 17 AP, counting pre-reqs not listed
Capstone - 2 AP

Capstone in red, because it was not mentioned.

Just to put it in the thread early, that's 65/80 AP. Being that it's human, you'll likely also want Human Adaptability Charisma (2 AP), possibly Greater Human Adaptability Constitution (4 AP), which if you really want it unlocks Toughness III (3 AP). First tier of Healing Amp also does not hurt (2 AP).

No Wand and Scroll Mastery? Could invest at least 3 AP for the second tier, especially if you plan on self-healing via heal scrolls (and who doesn't?).

Being focused on Cold and Enchantment is nice.. but there are some mobs out there that might be unaffected by one, or both. It would be advisable to pick up a second element, or better, force, to boost Disintegrate damage.

[Trillea]

I would make the HP bracers Concordant Opposition. The SP regen that you get from them (especially if you get a Torc as well) is awesome.

[elricken]

Capstone in red, because it was not mentioned.

Just to put it in the thread early, that's 65/80 AP. Being that it's human, you'll likely also want Human Adaptability Charisma (2 AP), possibly Greater Human Adaptability Constitution (4 AP), which if you really want it unlocks Toughness III (3 AP). First tier of Healing Amp also does not hurt (2 AP).

No Wand and Scroll Mastery? Could invest at least 3 AP for the second tier, especially if you plan on self-healing via heal scrolls (and who doesn't?).

Being focused on Cold and Enchantment is nice.. but there are some mobs out there that might be unaffected by one, or both. It would be advisable to pick up a second element, or better, force, to boost Disintegrate damage.

You are totally correct on the capstone, and wand and scroll mastery, and healing amp if you can fit it in. I drew this up in just a few minutes so I was bound to miss something . And ya, taking at least 1 or 2 of the force enhancements is a great idea to boost disentegrate. As far as Cold/Enchantment not working in some content, you know me aneist, I run epics all the fing time and have never have had a problem with cold + enchantment. It works very very well.

[Milfeulle]

For my Sorc life, I exchanged toughness for quicken, less AP to investigate in toughness, less casting duration for spells. I never use heal scrolls, by having a high healing amp (20% from enhancement, 50% from GS offhand weapon with Concordant Opposition, tier 2~4 Sorcerer Wand and Scroll Mastery, I was able to heal myself no less than 100 hp from cure critical wand, and not worrying about concentration check. Never had a problem soloing wiz king and dq1 on epic difficulty.

[elricken]

I would make the HP bracers Concordant Opposition. The SP regen that you get from them (especially if you get a Torc as well) is awesome.

Sure it's awesome, if you want to spend the extra larges for those proc rates then go ahead. I did, but it's not necessarily for everyone.

[elricken]

For my Sorc life, I exchanged toughness for quicken, less AP to investigate in toughness, less casting duration for spells. I never use heal scrolls, by having a high healing amp (20% from enhancement, 50% from GS offhand weapon with Concordant Opposition, tier 2~4 Sorcerer Wand and Scroll Mastery, I was able to heal myself no less than 100 hp from cure critical wand, and not worrying about concentration check.

I absolutely can't imagine taking quicken on a sorcerer, just learn to mitigate your incoming damage. You are correct in that toughness can very easily be swapped out for whatever else you want, the extra 60ish hp is not mandatory in any way.

[Milfeulle]

I absolutely can't imagine taking quicken on a sorcerer, just learn to mitigate your incoming damage. You are correct in that toughness can very easily be swapped out for whatever else you want, the extra 60ish hp is not mandatory in any way.

Many people don't take it, but I do. Quicken is even more useful in raids like eDQ2. I use it oftenly to maximize my hit & run zerg style which oftenly involved in severe dungeon alert.

[elricken]

Many people don't take it, but I do. Quicken is even more useful in raids like eDQ2. I use it oftenly to maximize my hit & run zerg style which often involved in severer dungeon alert.

Coming from a someone who zergs nearly every instance and who runs ADQ epic very often, quicken is a waste of a feat. In my opinion, obviously.

[TheDearLeader]

You are totally correct on the capstone, and wand and scroll mastery, and healing amp if you can fit it in. I drew this up in just a few minutes so I was bound to miss something . And ya, taking at least 1 or 2 of the force enhancements is a great idea to boost disentegrate. As far as Cold/Enchantment not working in some content, you know me aneist, I run epics all the fing time and have never have had a problem with cold + enchantment. It works very very well.

Yup, it's all good. Was just tossing a few pointers out there, and highlighting that there were 15 more AP to spend, after having accomplished the main mission of the build - which is not bad.

The way that they've changed many constructs to have at least *some* elemental vulnerability has made Cold go a long way.

One time that I see myself surprised at how my Water Savant is effective is in Abbot - all trash (Quells, Wheeps) take full cold damage, and are relatively easy to drop.

And the Abbot so far (lets hope it stays this way ) has to date not saved on a Disintegrate. So, 900+ untyped damage per cast, sometimes a nice 1900+ crit.

Of course, the extra Disintegrate "oomph" is also nice in EV6, where the pillars drop to maybe 5% after a single shot. The melee on my base just doesn't have a lot of work to do.

[Milfeulle]

Coming from a someone who zergs nearly every instance and who runs ADQ epic very often, quicken is a waste of a feat. In my opinion, obviously.

Solo or with a group? With a group I'm confidence with not having quicken feat, but solo is a different story for me. Just personally preference, nothing can go wrong there.

[elricken]

Solo or with a group? With a group I'm confidence with not having quicken feat, but solo is a different story for me. Just personally preference, nothing can go wrong there.

I run epics solo, short, and with a full group on a regular basis, and have done so since epics were first released.