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    Default Please revamp Elven Arcane Fluidity AP costs from 1-2-3-4 to 1-1-1-1

    Hello,

    at the moment, Elven Arcane Fluidity has AP costs of 1 - 2 - 3 - 4, meaning that it costs 10 AP for the whole line.

    Since its main users are Wizards, Bards and Sorcs - which are pretty tight on APs, it does barely see any use.

    I would like to suggest a change the AP cost to 1-1-1-1, similar to Elven Arcanum, which also saw its AP reduced to 1-1-1-1.

    Any more suggestions related to Elven Arcane Fluidity are greatly welcome, thanks!
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    With the addition of class PrEs and racial PrEs, all enhancement should follow the 1-1-1 or 1-1-1-1 format. At the very least only the last tier of enhancement should be a higher value (i.e. 1-1-2 or 1-1-1-2). There are enough choices and combinations now that are self-limiting whereas in the past there just wasn't enough choice, let alone good choices, to justify lowering the cost of enhancements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anneliese View Post
    Hello,

    at the moment, Elven Arcane Fluidity has AP costs of 1 - 2 - 3 - 4, meaning that it costs 10 AP for the whole line.

    Since its main users are Wizards, Bards and Sorcs - which are pretty tight on APs, it does barely see any use.

    I would like to suggest a change the AP cost to 1-1-1-1, similar to Elven Arcanum, which also saw its AP reduced to 1-1-1-1.

    Any more suggestions related to Elven Arcane Fluidity are greatly welcome, thanks!
    I don't see where this is a problem when you look at it as a replacement to the spell-pen. enhancements. Elves get +4 for 10 ap where everyone else gets +3 for 12 ap. So, in theory you are saving ap by taking the Elf enhancement vs. the normal ones anyway.

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    This is a known issue on Arcane Fluidity, they were supposed to have changed the costs to 1-1-1-1 along with the improved benefits back in like U7.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=150534

    Elven Arcane Fluidity - These enhancements should cost 1 point per tier.
    So fix it already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakian_Knight View Post
    I don't see where this is a problem when you look at it as a replacement to the spell-pen. enhancements. Elves get +4 for 10 ap where everyone else gets +3 for 12 ap. So, in theory you are saving ap by taking the Elf enhancement vs. the normal ones anyway.

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    Umm, ARcane fludity reduces the ARcane Spell failure chance while wearing armor, you do know that right?

    Has nothing to do with spell pen or sp. It is also a defining racial trait of D&D Elves. Elves need moar love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mournbladereigns View Post
    This is a known issue on Arcane Fluidity, they were supposed to have changed the costs to 1-1-1-1 along with the improved benefits back in like U7.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=150534

    So fix it already

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    Ooh, good catch, I was not even aware that the devs already agreed to change it, yay

    Booo for bugs
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    Quote Originally Posted by mournbladereigns View Post
    This is a known issue on Arcane Fluidity, they were supposed to have changed the costs to 1-1-1-1 along with the improved benefits back in like U7.

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=150534

    So fix it already

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    That was a poorly written release note. It was meant to imply "It's now 1-2-3-4 (costs one per tier) instead of 2-4-6 (two per tier)", which it was originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    That was a poorly written release note. It was meant to imply "It's now 1-2-3-4 (costs one per tier) instead of 2-4-6 (two per tier)", which it was originally.
    Any chance for a change ? Its quite expensive for the benefit it provides in my opinion - also, those poor Elves could use a buff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    That was a poorly written release note. It was meant to imply "It's now 1-2-3-4 (costs one per tier) instead of 2-4-6 (two per tier)", which it was originally.
    How about changing it to 1-1-1-1 anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anneliese View Post
    Any chance for a change ? Its quite expensive for the benefit it provides in my opinion - also, those poor Elves could use a buff
    They got a buff, it's called Elven Arcanum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    That was a poorly written release note. It was meant to imply "It's now 1-2-3-4 (costs one per tier) instead of 2-4-6 (two per tier)", which it was originally.
    You should make it 1-1-1-1 anyway. It's more of a flavor thing, since ac benefit from heavy armor is limited for any non-defender arcane build. Elves need moar love! I want to use my totally sweet set of +3 Mithral Twilight full plate!

    Pls?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreknaQudane View Post
    They got a buff, it's called Elven Arcanum
    Which only Elf Wizards can take - Elf Sorcs are left out =/
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