Force Savant - PLEEEASE!

[Dispel]

Can we please have a Force enhancement line?

With a Force AoE? And a Force DoT? ;D

[Rosze]

Why not sounds nice but couple problems:
1. Not enough force spells
2. Force isint actualy a element

But I like it.
What would the tier 3 spesial be ?

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Tier 1: Magic Missile
Tier 2: Chain Missiles
Tier 3: Force Missiles

And the DoT would be like Divine Punishment, but for arcanes.

Just need an AoE.. something like a puddle with jumping force specs sounds neat.

[kernal42]

No.

Because:
1) It doesn't make sense for there to be a force line of elemental savant.
2) The point of the savant is to build strengths and weaknesses. Effectively nothing is immune to force, so there is no corresponding weakness.

-Kernal

PS: There is a force AoE in-game already.

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PS: There is a force AoE in-game already.

Ice Storm doesn't count. Meteor Swarm isn't a DoT AoE.

[Rosze]

Well that's rigth forgot all about that. So don't think it will happend.

[phillymiket]

Sorcerer Force Savant I
You have focused your training to become an irresistible force but become an immovable object. You gain +2 to the caster level of all force spells but movement is reduced to 0.

[Rosze]

Sorcerer Force Savant I
You have focused your training to become an irresistible force but become an immovable object. You gain +2 to the caster level of all force spells but movement is reduced to 0.

The ultimate piker

[Dispel]

Force DoT: Stop Hitting Yourself

Force AoE: Sudden Obesity

[Qezuzu]

Force DoT: Stop Hitting Yourself

Force AoE: Sudden Obesity

Made yourself a bit too obvious there, troll

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Made yourself a bit too obvious there, troll

I am not a troll I just thought those were funny. I'd be Force Savant..

Oh I forgot all about the special ability (like Heat Death, Icy Prison, Wind Dance, etc.) I guess you could get either Slayer Arrows or a super jump (not horizontally but like a flea where you can hit your head on stuff or fall to death with no FF but since max falling damage is like 80 by the time you're lvl 18 you shouldn't fall to your death).

[NeutronStar]

Why not sounds nice but couple problems:
1. Not enough force spells
2. Force isint actualy a element

But I like it.
What would the tier 3 spesial be ?

No.

Because:
1) It doesn't make sense for there to be a force line of elemental savant.
2) The point of the savant is to build strengths and weaknesses. Effectively nothing is immune to force, so there is no corresponding weakness.

-Kernal

PS: There is a force AoE in-game already.

True, Force is not an Element but there is the Argent Savant PrC in D&D 3.5. They specialize in Force spells. There is also the Force Missle Mage PrC from Dragon Magazine which also allows an arcane caster to specialize in Force.

There are more Force things in DDO that could be affected by the PrE than you're probably thinking.

Shield could be made to last twice as long (without Extend or four times as long with Extend), and it could also be made to be twice as effective (double the amount of AC it gives).

Mage Armor is also a Force Spell that could me made to last twice as long and also be twice as effective.

A Force (Argent) Savant's magic missles could be allowed to penetrate a non-Force Savant's Shield or Nightshield spell.

Of course, all the Magic Missle-type spells could be made to be more effective (more damage) or their spell point costs could be lowered. The Spell Penetration rolls made for those spells could also be lowered by 2 or 3.

There's LOTS of stuff that COULD be done if one of the Devs really wanted to make a good Force PrE.

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A Force (Argent) Savant's magic missles could be allowed to penetrate a non-Force Savant's Shield or Nightshield spell.

NO! I paid $50 to LR my guy into a wizard and TR for Arcane Initiate. Make them work for that.

[mikemattd50]

NO! I paid $50 to LR my guy into a wizard and TR for Arcane Initiate. Make them work for that.

..........or started out as a wizard................

[TheDearLeader]

Of course, all the Magic Missle-type spells could be made to be more effective (more damage) or their spell point costs could be lowered. The Spell Penetration rolls made for those spells could also be lowered by 2 or 3.

I... don't believe any of the Magic Missile/Chain Missile/Force Missile spells have to bypass SR, do they?

I could be wrong here...

[Dispel]

oh yes, and another -1 coming as soon as I can for suspected trolling

I don't think it's right for you to publicly put me down like that and I'm fed up with it.

[Asketes]

Effectively nothing is immune to force, so there is no corresponding weakness.

incorrect,

iirc clay golems (magic immunity) and some oozes (arcane i think) are immune to force

[Trillea]

I don't think it's right for you to publicly put me down like that and I'm fed up with it.

Didn't you learn anything from your first break from the forums with your first account? I thought you may have but you have firmly slipped back into your old ways. Your suggestions are inane and usually extremely self-serving. You often choose topics that are inflammatory and love the attention they get. So I believe that your account should be blocked from the forums (again) and that your IP should be logged and no account that uses that IP should be able to post on the forums. You have been given chance after chance by the forum moderators, and I think that enough is enough.

At the very least I hope that you get put into a moderated state here on the forums.

[voodoogroves]

Sorcerer Force Savant I
You have focused your training to become an irresistible force but become an immovable object. You gain +2 to the caster level of all force spells but movement is reduced to 0.

How well does this work in PVP?


OP:


Wizard - Evocation Archmage is what you're looking for ... unless you want a wizard evoker who isn't a wizard (and likely a healer that is also a sorc ... and a barb that's a sorc ... and a bard that's a sorc ... and so on)

[licho]

1. Go wizard.
2. Pick Spell Focus Evocation and greater Spell Focus Evocation
3. Get the Evocation ArchMage SLAs (MM and CHain Missile and cyclonic blast on top)
4. ???
5. Profit

(ninjaed)