New to Sorc

[Nytemeir]

My idea for a sorc is to be an Arcane Archer (elf) using primarily force spells, summons, and buffs.

The gist is that I would concentrate mostly on archery, allowing pets or party members to get into melee. My starting attributes would look something like:

14 / 16 / 14 / 8 / 8 / 16

Ideas, comments, and especially advice are welcome.

[haclya]

bad idea why want play gimp way sorcerer got few spells and good damage if want to buffing pot play wizard or bard. sorcerer is not the class you want you will gimp the dc on the spells to much.

[pr0phet00]

bad idea why want play gimp way sorcerer got few spells and good damage if want to buffing pot play wizard or bard. sorcerer is not the class you want you will gimp the dc on the spells to much.

I think what (s)he is trying to say is that you may end up spreading yourself too thin. DC is important on a caster, and the drop in CHA may hurt you somewhat.

That being said, IMHO, build the char you want to, though you might be served well to move points from CON to CHR in you build below.

[Sparky21]

interesting idea.

however, i think once you get access to some of the powerful spells and compare them to your bow damage, you will start using only spells and put the bow aside in favor of spell enhancing scepters of various sorts.

so in the interest of saving time, i would recommend skipping the bow experiment and move straight to all out spell damage power. sorcerer can deal impressive damage with spells.

force damage can be extremely effective tho, if you do choose that route i got nothing against it. some major pew-pew once you get the right items and enhancements running. the only bad thing is there is no force savant. so force will have to be your secondary. savant is just too powerful right now to skip

[licho]

My idea for a sorc is to be an Arcane Archer (elf) using primarily force spells, summons, and buffs.

The gist is that I would concentrate mostly on archery, allowing pets or party members to get into melee. My starting attributes would look something like:

14 / 16 / 14 / 8 / 8 / 16

Ideas, comments, and especially advice are welcome.

Thats the very unorthodox aproach, which i afraid will not work since:
1. There is no Force PrE in Sorcerer.
2. You will need to many atributes and feats to run it all well.
3. The spells will soon outperform your archery.
4. Pets can serve as diversion but i would not expect them to kill anything.

The advice:
The best is to ignore the archery, and play sorcerer in pew pew way. And use a lot single target ray spells.
First go with acid sevant with second fire, and blast Scorching Rays/Melfs/Frostlance (sometimes).
At level 12 you will get melf arrow SLA.

Leiter (lv 18) swich to Air Savant with secondary Ice, for SLA lightbolt and polar ray.
Or Water Savant with secondary Air.

For buff part just pick: Energy Resistance, Blur, Hastle, Displacment, Rage, Protecion From Elements, Stoneskin, Greater Heroism.

Some of them will have to wait for higher levels to be swaped from offensive spells.

For pets either use scrolls (the duracion is 10min at least) or spend one of the higher slots (and swap with each 2 lvs up).

Feats: Spell Focus Evocation (for pre), Maximize and Empower, Extend for buffs. after that whatever you like.

Atributes: Max CHarisma, 6 or 10 points in Con, some points in INT so you can rak up in UMD or some social skills.

If you more sticked to using bow, check the topic:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=295551
And try some Bard splash, however then you will sacrize pets.

Have fun.

[bigolbear]

feats are going to be realy tight on this build.

to make it work you will need

1. bow str
2. point blank shot
3. rapid shot
4. many shot
5. maximise
6. empower
7. spell focus evocation (for access to sorc prestiges)


your also gona need divine power clickes - about 10 charges so you can hit with that bow and also a +1 dex tome to get the feats.

You are also limiting your sorc side to pure nuking - thats not a problem tho many good nuker sorcs out there

[TheHolyDarkness]

Just go pure sorc. SLA's and Polar Ray will soon enough make you forget you even had a bow. Sorcs are already Pew Pew out the box. This would have been a strange experiment pre-U9. Afterall, there may have been times I whipped out a xbow on account of being well and truly spent on mana.

Post-U9, its an experiment that's completely and utterly unnecessary. You'd never pull a bow now, not even in a desperate low mana situation, now that they've granted us Echos of Power + SLA. One of the draws of AA would be their unlimted ammo. Now every sorc has unlimited ammo what's the point?

Step 1: Max Cha
Step 2: Max Con
Step 3: Put the rest into int (extra skill point = good. There are always str tomes and items for your stinking "carrying capacity." You'd get more use out of an extra skill point regardless of what the str crowd says)

There you go. The rest, like what race you're using, inconsequential. Enjoy.

~TheHolyDarkness Out~

[Dirichlet]

feats are going to be realy tight on this build.

to make it work you will need

1. bow str
2. point blank shot
3. rapid shot
4. many shot
5. maximise
6. empower
7. spell focus evocation (for access to sorc prestiges)

About the only positive is that you can maybe leave out Manyshot since with the Sorc's BAB you'll only qualify for the two arrow version.

But yeah, this is what I was thinking. No room for Toughness, Heighten, Extend. Wizard would be a better choice for a pure arcane AA just for the extra feats. But you'll way out damage bows with spells on a 20 Sorc/Wiz. Maybe if that Manyshot was 4x you could consider going bows during the cooldown (you could use it between Niac's/Eladar's refreshes so that your two most powerful spells were still in use), but not on 2x. I'm pretty sure even an MM/FM spam would out damage bows on such a build.

[transtemporal]

Pure sorc AA doesn't work IMO. As well as the thin stat distribution, you need 2 feats minimum to qualify for AA (point blank shot and wf: ranged), another 3 that are all but mandatory (bow strength, rapid shot, manyshot) and 2 on top of that are almost-as-mandatory (precise shot and improved precise shot).

Given that an elf sorc only gets 7 feats, that's basically all your feats feats taken up!

[Nytemeir]

You all have me convinced - the AA Sorc is out. Sounded like fun for a while though.

...and I have to confess one little thing...

I have no idea what "pew pew" means.

[cyadra]

You all have me convinced - the AA Sorc is out. Sounded like fun for a while though.

...and I have to confess one little thing...

I have no idea what "pew pew" means.

The only thing that could work if you really wanted some archery would be to get a Repeating Crossbow. You would be ok up til levels 12-14ish, and it only costs 2 feats which you could swap out later.

[Grenada]

Feats: Spell Focus Evocation (for pre), Maximize and Empower, Extend for buffs. after that whatever you like.

For that archer like speed, maybe add in Quicken (pew...pew =>pewpewpew)