Slayer Arrow Replacement

[Dispel]

I got an idea for boosting PvE DPS!!!

Make a Lightning Strike imbue that gives each arrow the same amount of lightning damage as a LitII.

On a natural 20, get a Lightning Strike! It will do more than 500 damage AND can stack with a LitII!

So more damage-per-arrow (DPA) and better than Slayer Arrows. Booyah, the perfect fix!



P.S. The game isn't about PvP, so don't worry about..

Ring of the Djinn (33%) w/
Resist + Protection from Elements (150) w/
600+ HP.

[Hobgoblin]

sigh. so this wouldnt help your pvp then would it

[Doomcrew]

What about those archers that don't have a Lit II bow in there arsenal?

[Dispel]

What about those archers that don't have a Lit II bow in there arsenal?

Then it doesn't need to stack it'll be like they had a LitII but they could make something else?

Err, like, it'll be a LitII on everything, + what they have. If they have a LitII, it'll be like having 2.

[J1NG]

And... what about those electrical immune enemies?

J1NG

[Dispel]

And... what about those electrical immune enemies?

J1NG

Force Burst. It's a good trade-up seeing as how most AA will make a LitII anyway.

[Quarterling]

What happened to you? You seem all different now. From what I gather, this seems like a possible answer:

1. Turbine deleted your old forum account (all previous posts no longer exist, the only evidence is from when other people have quoted h4x).
2. Turbine FORCED you to attend a "PvP is bad seminar" that was about a few months long in duration.
3. You return apparently not caring about PvP, a whole new h4x/dispel.

This is not good, it seems as if Turbine has committed the crime of brainwashing and they are trying to cover this up by having deleted your old account and hoping that everyone forgot about you (also a possible reason why it took so long for you to return).

Now you may not be aware of this because brainwashed victims have been of course, brainwashed. I would recommend that you get a good lawyer and have a "talk" with Turbine. Psychological damage is very hard to heal and often takes a great deal of time.

And honestly, I am about 40% serious on this. 100% serious if it was in fact Turbine that "fixed" your mind.

Oh yes, on topic...

"Lightning Strike" is an effect that only occurs ~3% of the time, so honestly I don't think it should work on natural 20's since that would be far too much. IMHO, I never understood why Slayer Arrows didn't "slay" enemies. It only makes sense after all, because otherwise they aren't "Slaying" Arrows. Though if this ability was to be granted, I would say that it would only work on living enemies and not things like undead and constructs.

Now I have never played an Arcane Archer before, so I am not sure what kind of damage their slaying arrows do. I originally thought it was untyped, but since the Dark Monk's Touch of Death got switched from untyped to negative, I am under the impression that slaying arrows got switched from untyped to negative as well (though of course I could be wrong on this). If that's the case, the slaying arrows would be more situational with their enemy effectiveness lowered, but more potent against trash mobs. My 2cp on this topic anyway.

[Memnir]

No.

[Asketes]

I love you, don't ever change please

[TheDearLeader]

How does it feel to be back on the wagon?

[bendover]

You're back at it again, this thread is only truly about pvp... Because you can block and absorb electric damage (which is your true intention here). You, however, cannot with untyped.

[Dispel]

You're back at it again, this thread is only truly about pvp... Because you can block and absorb electric damage (which is your true intention here). You, however, cannot with untyped.

Pale Lavender Ioun Stone <-This isn't about PvP, I want to make a ranger and do cool DPS in quests!

[Asketes]

Pale Lavender Ioun Stone <-This isn't about PvP, I want to make a ranger and do cool DPS in quests!

you'll need a 13 dex to get the prereq feat for tempest

[altrocks]

"Lightning Strike" is an effect that only occurs ~3% of the time, so honestly I don't think it should work on natural 20's since that would be far too much. IMHO, I never understood why Slayer Arrows didn't "slay" enemies. It only makes sense after all, because otherwise they aren't "Slaying" Arrows. Though if this ability was to be granted, I would say that it would only work on living enemies and not things like undead and constructs.

That would be somewhat insane since it would make AA even less DPS, even with manyshot on. You'd basically be turning a tier 5 PrE ability into vorpal. Yes, tier 5, there are 5 levels of AA: 1 ap for summon arrows 2 through 5 (4 AP) + 1 ap for arrow imbue force/acid/explosive/force burst/fear/slaying (6) + 4 for the initial = 14 ap. No one will spend 14 AP for the slowest vorpal weapon in the game (even with manyshot on, it would be horribad). Even if it was on par with Rogue Assassinate (a Tier 2 ability), it would still only work on living targets and would probably have a DC associated with it that would further require AA's to spread their stat points around (Most likely to WIS, since INT would make no sense at all).

Now I have never played an Arcane Archer before, so I am not sure what kind of damage their slaying arrows do. I originally thought it was untyped, but since the Dark Monk's Touch of Death got switched from untyped to negative, I am under the impression that slaying arrows got switched from untyped to negative as well (though of course I could be wrong on this). If that's the case, the slaying arrows would be more situational with their enemy effectiveness lowered, but more potent against trash mobs. My 2cp on this topic anyway.

In the combat log, it shows as pierce damage, but is unaffected by DR of any type. To me, this says it's treated as untyped by the game engine, even now. Also, they work on all mobs, living, construct, undead, doesn't matter. It only happens on a confirmed vorpal and as stated before, it takes 14 AP plus prereqs to get it, so having 5x vorpal damage is probably about right, even if it lacks the instakill ability. I'd say it's a fairly balanced thing right now.

As for the rest of ranged combat, well.... There's about ten million threads on it throughout the forums. I'm not hijacking this one.

[bendover]

Pale Lavender Ioun Stone <-This isn't about PvP, I want to make a ranger and do cool DPS in quests!

No you don't. You can't use the words, "cool dps" and "ranger" in the same sentence.

[bendover]

you'll need a 13 dex to get the prereq feat for tempest

What he said

[Dispel]

No you don't. You can't use the words, "cool dps" and "ranger" in the same sentence.

You just did!

[Memnir]

[comment redacted in light of a new day - and name added to Ignore list]

[KillEveryone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k46kDXyhyo

[Dispel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k46kDXyhyo

That was cute.