Shipbuffs equal boot...

[Enoach]

The reason he probably hates people getting ship buffs is that he either doesn't have access to them, or high enough level ones to be useful. It's most likely just jealousy .

You can answer this by simply clicking on the OPs Avatar. When you follow that you will see the Character and Guild associated and you will realize something really quickly. Your statement is not true.

[Blank_Zero]

You can answer this by simply clicking on the OPs Avatar. When you follow that you will see the Character and Guild associated and you will realize something really quickly. Your statement is not true.

This.

Btw Cru, excellent troll. Idk how you did it, but you've gotten 4 pages of people getting up in arms over a single sentence.

Bravo

[TWDiggs1980]

This.

Btw Cru, excellent troll. Idk how you did it, but you've gotten 4 pages of people getting up in arms over a single sentence.

Bravo

It's a skill and a curse.

[Kominalito]

So tell me OP, when you're waiting at least ten minutes, with 10 anxious PUGers, for that must have toon and one finally join and says "buffing and omw", you gonna kick em right? Go for it, but you're not gonna have just one ticked off indidivual, you're going to have 11. Good luck with that. There is a reason they say patience is a virtue, it keeps from ****ing people off.

-super awesome party leader waits a few minutes for the 12th member to show.
-gets tell from 12th saying he is getting ship buffs, there in 3 minutes.
-boots 12th, waits 15 minutes for full group...

GREAT SUCCESS.

[TWDiggs1980]

-super awesome party leader waits a few minutes for the 12th member to show.
-gets tell from 12th saying he is getting ship buffs, there in 3 minutes.
-boots 12th, waits 15 minutes for full group...

GREAT SUCCESS.

Ah but your wrong there. After I boot that person we just go.

[Rog]

i can only speak as a monk on this 1 ship buffs equal:+2 wis,+2 dex extra +2 ac off the bat +2 con free hp +2 str extra wieght dex builds dont have great str, +2 char +1 umd every point helps . and a etra exp bonus every legend builds luv that.
i would say boot me man

[BOgre]

That's a terrible attitude. Is your group in such a hurry that you can't spare the 30 seconds it takes? sheesh. Plus, is that buffer the last one to join, and once joined you're just going to enter instantly? No, you're going to take a minute or two to maybe go over some standing orders, check vox, maybe go over loot rolls, whatever. A good leader will take a minute before rushing in to say a few words to his party. And while we're listening to your briefing, I can be buffing and heading to the entrance.
Honestly, if you're that impatient, PLEASE kick me... I'm not predicting a very enjoyable run with you and yours... (thankfully it'll never happen, unless you plan to bring your cabbage headded attitude to Thelanis).
Whatever, to each his own.

[fluffybunnywilson]

maybe go over loot rolls,

Go over loot rolls?


This thread keeps getting better and better.

[Postumus]

So I have said it before and I will reiterate here again for people that seem to have trouble understanding it.
If you join my party and mention shipbuffs to run any raid on normal(Pretty much any non epic raid) I will kick you from my party no questions asked.

And I was THIS CLOSE to rolling a character on Khyber too...

[maddmatt70]

I for the most part concur with the OP. Wasting 11 other people's time solely so you can get ship buffs is selfish behavior. My favorite is Dq2 epic with dq1 flag. It has happend several times before where after finishing the DQ1 flagging people go to their ship for buffs thus making the other 11 people wait at the entrance of DQ2 epic. I have left many a player behind (literally started quest without them and they did not get in the quest in time and thus shut out) because they thought it was o.k. to make 11 people wait while they get ship buffs. Get your buffs before flagging.. Time is precious. Your time is not more valuable then the group's time you selfish %!^!@!#.

[mournbladereigns]

I for the most part concur with the OP. Wasting 11 other people's time solely so you can get ship buffs is selfish behavior. My favorite is Dq2 epic with dq1 flag. It has happend several times before where after finishing the DQ1 flagging people go to their ship for buffs thus making the other 11 people wait at the entrance of DQ2 epic. I have left many a player behind (literally started quest without them and they did not get in the quest in time and thus shut out) because they thought it was o.k. to make 11 people wait while they get ship buffs. Get your buffs before flagging.. Time is precious. Your time is not more valuable then the group's time you selfish %!^!@!#.

"But Mr. Hahn, if I'm here and your here, doesn't that make it both of our's time?"

[TWDiggs1980]

And I was THIS CLOSE to rolling a character on Khyber too...

The rest of Khyber can thank me later.

[Blank_Zero]

People don't seem to get it, so I'll spell it out a bit better.

If you mention or ask for buffs, you get kicked.

Stop asking for them and get them on your way to the quest.

Most people log in and out from the airship anyhow right?

[Postumus]

The rest of Khyber can thank me later.

ba-dum-bum!

[TWDiggs1980]

People don't seem to get it, so I'll spell it out a bit better.

If you mention or ask for buffs, you get kicked.

Stop asking for them and get them on your way to the quest.

Most people log in and out from the airship anyhow right?

Hold up blank. Are you trying to jack my thread?

[Saravis]

-super awesome party leader waits a few minutes for the 12th member to show.
-gets tell from 12th saying he is getting ship buffs, there in 3 minutes.
-boots 12th, waits 15 minutes for full group...

GREAT SUCCESS.

So you'd rather wait 15+ minutes for another member rather than 1 minute for the one that you have currently? Does the term "logic" mean anything to you?

[anto_capone]

If I need my XP shrine I will take it. I usually don't bother telling anyone that I am ever getting ship buffs anyway, I just simply state that 'I'll be right there!'.

I do get the OP point, but it goes both ways as well. There are times I have gotten all my ship buffs, went to apply, and gotten no response. No decline, no accept, just nada; so consideration of others is a two way street yes, but I have learned to do things a certain way, like:

1: be on the guild ship when applying
2: start beating down the dummy right after applying, to cut down on buff time
3: when accepted into a group, be considerate of how many people are in the group (if I am the last to join, I will speed up the buff time, perhaps only grabbing that essential XP shrine)


I understand that ship buffs are not necessary, used to not be here, etc.. I am perfectly capable of deciding when I feel they are necessary however and reserve my right to use something I/we have earned.

Have fun folks!

[Blank_Zero]

Hold up blank. Are you trying to jack my thread?

Nah.

People just think that you are saying "If I examine you and see ship buffs, I'll boot you." When in reality, it's "you don't need buffs, but if you get them, hurry up or we start without you."

[taurean430]

Wow Crulax you sure opened a can of worms here.

If it matters at all, I agree with ya. I've joined raids and while headed to the navigator gotten one buff or another that takes little to no time. Xp shrine and healing amp bonus come to mind. What makes me batty is standing around waiting for multiple people who join in the last positions to beat on a training dummy.

Really though, I thought this was a standard practice in your guild. I haven't run with you guys for awhile though. Been all kinds of busy with my TR'ing toons.

[Sweyn]

So I have said it before and I will reiterate here again for people that seem to have trouble understanding it.
If you join my party and mention shipbuffs to run any raid on normal(Pretty much any non epic raid) I will kick you from my party no questions asked.

lol