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    Exclamation "Past Life: Berserker's Fury" is kinda meh...

    Past Life: Berserker's Fury - One time per day, you can rage which gives you a +4 Str/+4 Con rage for only 30 seconds.

    Let's look at other past life feats.

    Bardic Dilettante - Inspire Courage 3 times/rest. Duration is probably greater than 30 seconds if I had to guess. Doesn't increase with levels.
    Initiate of the Faith - Healing Word 5 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Acolyte of Divine Secrets - Avenging Light 5 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Student of the Sword - BAB equals level and +4 attack 3 times/rest.
    Disciple of the Fist - Evasive trance 1 time/rest.
    Soldier of the Faith - Divine Favor 3 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Warrior of the Wild - Barkskin 3 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Sneak of Shadows - Sneak of Shadows 3 times/rest. Effect increases with character levels.
    Arcane Prodigy - Elemental Ray 10 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Arcane Initiate - Magic Missiles 10 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.

    Every single other past life feat grants usage of at least 3 times/rest and the effect increases with levels (Bard Past Life Feat doesn't increase by level; Monk and Fighter don't for obvious reasons). Of course, this does not apply to the Monk Past Life which may need to be looked at as well.

    How about increasing the uses and duration to Berserker's Fury and Disciple of the Fist so that they may be more viable? Once per day for 30 seconds and the fact that you still get fatigued seems really weak.
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    The bard one does not increase with levels.
    It's as if a level 1 bard is buffing you with their crappy +1/+1 song for, what is it, 2 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    Past Life: Berserker's Fury - One time per day, you can rage which gives you a +4 Str/+4 Con rage for only 30 seconds.

    Let's look at other past life feats.

    Bardic Dilettante - Inspire Courage 3 times/rest. Duration is probably greater than 30 seconds if I had to guess.
    Initiate of the Faith - Healing Word 5 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Acolyte of Divine Secrets - Avenging Light 5 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Student of the Sword - BAB equals level and +4 attack 3 times/rest.
    Disciple of the Fist - Evasive trance 1 time/rest.
    Soldier of the Faith - Divine Favor 3 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Warrior of the Wild - Barkskin 3 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Sneak of Shadows - Sneak of Shadows 3 times/rest. Effect increases with character levels.
    Arcane Prodigy - Elemental Ray 10 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.
    Arcane Initiate - Magic Missiles 10 times/rest. Effect increases with caster levels.

    Every single other past life feat grants usage of at least 3 times/rest and the effect increases with levels. Of course, this does not apply to the Monk Past Life which may need to be looked at as well.

    How about increasing the uses and duration to Berserker's Fury and Disciple of the Fist so that they may be more viable? Once per day for 30 seconds and the fact that you still get fatigued seems really weak.
    Due to an uninetntional interaction, berserker's fury is among the very best past lives, as the +4/+4 bonus also boosts any normal rages you have to be larger than they would otherwise be.

    While this isn't intended and will be changed someday, its why you see this feat frequently on some builds: it makes even low-level rages extremely strong (a char with just /1 barb will have 8/8 rages).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symar-FangofLloth View Post
    The bard one does not increase with levels.
    It's as if a level 1 bard is buffing you with their crappy +1/+1 song for, what is it, 2 minutes?
    So for a total of six minutes for 3 times/rest?

    And yeah it's kind of misleading how I put it. I did not say in the list that the Bard Past Life Feat increases with levels (because it does not), but later I did say "Every single other past life feat grants usage of at least 3 times/rest and the effect increases with levels."

    Fixed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    So for a total of six minutes for 3 times/rest?

    And yeah it's kind of misleading how I put it. I did not say in the list that the Bard Past Life Feat increases with levels (because it does not), but later I did say "Every single other past life feat grants usage of at least 3 times/rest and the effect increases with levels."

    Fixed now.
    That's not much true and in fact most of the pl clickies are extremely bad. Look at the one on pl: monk! When you find a character who would use that, let me know. Ranger is also pretty bad, fighter isn't good, as mentioned bard is extremely poor. Even some of the cast ones (fvs and sorc) aren't very impressive, and they scale with char level, not caster level, so the yall work regardless of char class (wiz sorc fvs cle, that is), they just don't work that well. I don't know anyone who's ever taken any chosen PL feat besides rogue or paladin for its activated-clicky effect. Do you? They're nearly all chosen for passive benefits (+1 all dcs, +1 max dex, +4/4 to rages, +1 hand die step, random free clicki attached to slightly better mental toughness, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    So for a total of six minutes for 3 times/rest?
    Maybe its 4m each. For 12m a rest. I'm not certain.
    Either way, its a Morale bonus, so it doesn't stack with very much.
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    The Cleric one sucks a donkey. Just my 2cp.
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    Some time ago I post my ideas of change: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=303555

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    I have to disagree about the ranger clicky being weak. It is for a ranger, but for any other class with AC potential, it's awesome! My level capped 36 point monk has three 20 minute +5 barkskins.

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    Didnt the pl:barb also boost rage duration by a LOT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symar-FangofLloth View Post
    Maybe its 4m each. For 12m a rest. I'm not certain.
    Either way, its a Morale bonus, so it doesn't stack with very much.
    iirc there's 4 sources of morale boost to damage

    Bardic Past Life Song (+1)
    Actual Bard Song (up to +9 or something)
    Good Hope via Bard spell (+2)
    Good Hope via Mask of Comedy (+2)

    A single item (Mask of Comedy) is twice as good as the feat, though the feat does also give +1 to ench DC's.

    The spell-like Past Lifes (FvS, Clr, Wiz, Sorc) are decent for leveling, and can provide some cheap, long range damage (Wiz hits for like 200 or something). Rogue past life is really powerful, +10 to damage and +5 to attack (SA damage).

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    Who cares about the clickies. I consider all the clickies worthless except on builds with lots of feats, but the passive benefits of some of the feats are outstanding.
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    The first rule of the barbarian past life feat is you don't talk about the barbarian past life feat.

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    There is nothing wrong with the barbarian past life feat.

    It is fine.

    It is not good. It is not bad. It is and must be left alone.

    There is no reason for any dev time to be spent at all towards it.

    None.

    Ignore it and let it continue as is.

    There are no bugs. All who say otherwise are telling the lies of liars.

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