So now that loot runs are relevant again.. Whats the best high lvl lootrun?

[Shade]

At least for leveling crafting without burning too many millions of plat.. High lvl random junk loot seems worth getting again (to subsequently destroy.. Even if you dont like to craft, other that do will buy it on AH, or buy the essences you may get)..

I was mainly selling red scales for a mil plat and doing it that way.. But it seems our economy has shifted and I can't get a mil for a red scale anymore. So as profitable as dragon runs are, maybe its worth doing a lootrun..

I guess some people might say epic, but other then for guild renown.. Epic loot is actaully ****. Generally lower lvl then regular high lvl loot. (Usually youll see ml12-14 items, very rarely 16.. While lvl18+ quests youll find lvl14-16 commonly, rarely 18, and possibly even 20 for lvl23 + loottables (mainly just tod atm, tho DD elite may qualify with a lootgem)

Then epic quests tend to take a bit longer then normal-elite ones too.. So epics mainly out of the question...

Tho for a easy solo lootrun, DQ1 epic remains pretty good. (3 chests in 3-5min if you have another account to do resets)

Raid wise, Shrouds the obvious winner at 12 lvl17 chests, with groups generally being fast to fill/complete.

Non epic/raid.. I'm thinking IQ/DD.. They were always the easies/fastest high lvl quests, far faster then amrath ones, and some have lots of chests. What do you guys think?

[Trillea]

Shroud as you said is a lot of chests for an easy quest. IQ has some really easy lootable chests as well - especially I Dream of Jeets, and the chest behind the stairs in the Mindsunder.

Reavers Refuge has easy-to-loot explorer chests.

People forget about From Beyond the Grave, but it is still some really quick chests, which if you are just looking for essences is all you need.

[redspecter23]

Raiding the Giants Vault is absolutely amazing. Up to 6 chests in under 5 minutes and an end reward. Faster players could probably get it done in 2 minutes or less. You can spend more time looting than running there

[Quikster]

Yeah that list seems decent. IQ is good for non epic, von 2 and edq 6 man are good for epic, and shroud prolly still remains the quickest raid for lots of decent chests. And yeah chrono is good for renown. So I guess I coulda just quoted you....

[Shade]

People forget about From Beyond the Grave, but it is still some really quick chests, which if you are just looking for essences is all you need.

Not really, thats a lvl11 quest. With 2 chests in X minutes?

Deconstructing higher lvl loot does usually get you significantly more essences.. Since you have a better chance at getting a lvl5 essence item.. (which can give more then 5 times the essence of a lvl1 item)

Plus an item ML has some random effect on how many you get as of 9.1

[Shade]

Raiding the Giants Vault is absolutely amazing. Up to 6 chests in under 5 minutes and an end reward. Faster players could probably get it done in 2 minutes or less. You can spend more time looting than running there

sounds pretty good tho I hate soloing. And solo difficulty has some penalty to the loot tables, not sure how much in that quest.

I think a group could probably come close to matching that in shipwrecked spy. (5 chests, takes about 6min counting the time to loot/clear optional) and there lvl18 chests, or 20 on elite.

If lower lvls have a similar amount of essneces I was thinking mired in kobolds elite may be nice in a strong grp. 9 lvl15 (maybe higher for the end ones actually) chests... doable in under 10min... given tons of dps for the end dragons. Might be a good one for +2 loot wekends anyways, as that would bring it up high enough to be dropping mostly lvl5 essence type junk.

[redspecter23]

sounds pretty good tho I hate soloing. And solo difficulty has some penalty to the loot tables, not sure how much in that quest.

I think a group could probably come close to matching that in shipwrecked spy. (5 chests, takes about 6min counting the time to loot/clear optional) and there lvl18 chests, or 20 on elite.

If lower lvls have a similar amount of essneces I was thinking mired in kobolds elite may be nice in a strong grp. 9 lvl15 (maybe higher for the end ones actually) chests... doable in under 10min... given tons of dps for the end dragons. Might be a good one for +2 loot wekends anyways, as that would bring it up high enough to be dropping mostly lvl5 essence type junk.

I remember some time ago the loot in there was just garbage. Perhaps I'm remembering it wrong. But the runs I've been doing lately have been returning a majority of tier 4 and 5 deconstructs so maybe they raised the loot table level in there? Give it a try and see how it works for you.

[Shade]

I remember some time ago the loot in there was just garbage. Perhaps I'm remembering it wrong. But the runs I've been doing lately have been returning a majority of tier 4 and 5 deconstructs so maybe they raised the loot table level in there? Give it a try and see how it works for you.

nah even if it is really good, id rather group and get less loot. Solo is too boring.

[Junts]

I don't specifically run for decons but these are the ones I've done for other reasons I'd do for decons alone:

Ming for ancient secrets 2m runs (chet+end rwd for 2:30 time)

Sins 12m runs: 5chest+ end reward. These times vary depending where the chests are, early locatios are faster

Gensis point 12-14. Runs: need at least one other for good time. 7chests+end rwd

Shroud h/e: 10 chests+end

Eadq chest runs:40m ransack per toon, 24 chests

The only one of those I'd solo is the eadq run because its so much easier to reset it with a hireling if you are alone. Otherwise, its a lot faster to bring others. I'd shoot for a chest/2 min situation because at high levels its hard to do better than that in chests/time in a sustainable way.

End rewards for capped characters never seem to involve greater essence stacks (which sucks a ton), but end rewards still beat chests because you can always pick a deconstruct option instead of getting a random one, letting you focus on a school or particular essence type that you need more of or that are annoying to get (like taking things that decon to divine and evil essences over good essences, because its so hard to get lots of divine and evils from loot).

[Chai]

Solo - Giants Vault - its the solo quest on the Dreaming Dark island. Fair amount of chests for the time you spend inside the quest.

I usually combine this with getting the TR Xp train going.

With level 17+ TRs, Amrath, Dreaming Dark and IQ ransack - depending where you are in the XP curve. Alot of that loot will have at least one effect that puts down level 5 essences when crushed. Mindsunder has some nice items anyhow, and the XP is relevant and fast enough for high level non 20 TRs.

[ciopo]

blockade buster is 4chests in 3-6 minutes if splitting up and killing the least necessary,+2 minutes to then go fetch the chests on the other sides.
delirium is 6 chests in about 11-16 minutes , don't like that one personally because I can't stand quest-related forced slowdown time.

Monastery of the scorpion is good too with splitting, averagely 10 minutes for 3-6 chests with a good puzzler (that would be me!)

[Bodic]

loot run I like is IQ island solo 5 chests I avg 4-5 min runs. best I have seen has been lvl18 loot.

[Crazyfruit]

All of the free to play quests they added back in u3 or so are good. You need strong groups to pull some off fast enough though & splitting up.

Acid Wit - 4 chests, sometimes more. 5 mins but needs lots of people splitting up to do fast.
Delirium - 6 chests iirc. 6 mins.
Demons' Den elite - 4-7 chests, 5 mins. Needs 3 people to do fast. Less chests below elite. But it's also harder than epics are now.
Mired in Kobolds, but ya know that already.

Blockade Buster & Siegebreaker are good for chests. Genesis Point & New Invasion with a good group. Wizard King's pretty nice too if you're not sick of the place.

[GotSomeQuestions]

End rewards for capped characters never seem to involve greater essence stacks (which sucks a ton)

I've noticed that as well, with one exception: whenever there's a Mystical (object) in the end reward, there are several essence stacks as well. That basically limits you to Vale/Orchard quests; Running and Temple are both reasonably fast although not ideal.

[Matuse]

You're all overthinking it. You don't need high level loot. You need high level prefixes/suffixes.

Deathblock is a super common level 5 decon that starts appearing on level 8 items.

Greater X resistance items give level 5 elemental decons, those are easily available on armors/accessories showing up around level 8.

Caster sticks with spell increasing enhancements easily go to level 4 or 5 and show up around ML 6.

Holy, X Burst, Fearsome, Metalline, Smiting, all level 4 and 5 effects, all around level 8-10.

You want a loot run? Do Dhakan on Hard or Elite. Like 9 chests, and all able to drop max tier decon items.

Diplomatic Impunity on Elite is also good. 2 chests from the wildmen, possibly 3 more from jungle rares, and 4 from the end fight. Even better if you get a wand of blasting (very common from the 3 non-minion end chests on elite). It retails to NPCs (with mediocre haggle) at 3500 platinum. Can do the whole quest in under 10 minutes.

[Sarisa]

I still contend that Epic Partycrashers is one of the best vendor trash runs. Even without the death "trick" that was used pre-u9, it's still a 20-30 minute run for 10 chests (1 end of illusionarium, 3 library, 1 tiefling room, 3 end, 1 pig crystal optional, 1 Nat Gann's urn optional) and a full token. The quality of the trash isn't quite as good as Amrath, but you should still get enough tier 4 or 5 items to make a worthwhile amount of essences.

eVoN2 maze chests ransack, eVoN4 fire shaft chest ransack; while the vendor trash isn't the best, still should get enough tier 4/5 items to be worth it.

And, of course the aforementioned Shroud, Sins, Delirium, Genesis Point, Giant's Vault, Mindsunder.

As for crafting ingredients in the end rewards, almost every time I run Fear Factory, I get a list of greater essences. Also seem to get them to show up a lot when I run Ghola-Fan out in the Restless Isles, but that may be related to the 'mystical' item showing up.

[NaturalHazard]

I found that I get more by selling the ml 14 and up stuff esp the weapons then using that money to buy the essences. I can get around (4000-5000? im not sure will have to go and check) for a ml 14 weapon. that normally buys me 4 greaters on the ah. very unlikely deconstructing it would give me 4 greaters.

Also ive found that I get more greaters deconing lower level stuff than higher level stuff.

greaters from deconing lower level stuff with higher level prefix's and stuff on them.

[HalfOrcBeautyQueen]

Vale rares are still relevant loot runs when it comes to crafting/deconstructing. As Matuse said it's the high level effects vs high level items, and the last Vale run I did (before my comp broke down) I was getting a lot of Deathblocks (level 5 good).

I know you weren't looking for Solo, but doing Vale rares in a group is faster due to the quick reset - but that may make it a bit grindier.

From Twelve entrance...
Rakshasa -> Spider -> Spider Cave -> Djinni -> Ogre -> check Troll -> Earth Ele -> Devil -> Bats -> Hyena, rinse and repeat.

In a group you could even have one person enter from Meridia and go to Shavarath side.

[slimkj]

Yeah I think the DD island quests.

Sins is fast, reasonably high lvl chests too. ~10 min for all three/four, and depending on random placement luck you can run a lot of times before ransack by rotating boss fights.

[Shade]

I dunno, I kinda think level has more to do with it then most think.

Like Junts mentioned, doing quests when capped never gets your essences in end rewards.. While doing them while lvling in a quest at +1 over your lvl, seems to nearly guarentee a stack.

So for at least end rewards, they probably work similar to guild renown. (Which is something like 75% chance, and +/- 6% chance per lvl above/below.) except you cant get them at all for runing below lvl quests.

And as far as finding them in chests.. It seems like I get by far the most epic, got the hugest stack I ever seen the other day in epic DA, think it was 36 greaters.

Tho you can definetely get them in below lvl.. As to test I just ransacked (or attempted to) come out and slay.. Which has 3 chests in 2 min on my capped fvs, tho I only bothered getting 2.
I noticed:
The first named chest "Bellows chest" had zero essences.
But the 2nd chest near the end, unnamed one, had a few quite often, about 50% of runs. Tho only around 2-9 max.
End reward never ransacks.. Guess since its a semi-static, it can't.

So it's eitherj ust specific chests can drop em, or they did a script that added them to all "Chest" but chests with special names cant drop them.

I dunno, that chest had them way more often the anything else ive seen..

Most epics I do almst never have them.. Like Epic DA I mentioned, that 36 stack was really a surprise, because hte last 5 runs I did, I got none.

Someone should probably test some chests and try to figure out exactly whats going on here.

You're all overthinking it. You don't need high level loot. You need high level prefixes/suffixes.

Even if we dont need high lvl chests for essences.. The loot ML does actaully matter now as of U9.1... was in the release notes:

Deconstructing low tier effects on high-end loot will now return more reward essences.

And someone did test this, and find it is working ... And giving bonus essences for almost all loot from ml6 and up, tho slightly more for higher ml.

and your suggestion: Tear of dhaakan. I like that quest so I might try it.. But I dont see it being high enough for tier5. Its lvl7, so 9 on elite.. Best loot you can get is generally quest lvl-4, so 5 in this case (this rule can ofcourse vary, tho for all old quests, it was rarely messed with).. Tier5 minimum being 6 for deathblock, and 8 for most other types. And the loot system seems to prefer not to generate single suffix/prefix items. It likes to put 2 on there, so you usually get two +2 instead of a +4.. While high lvl loot is generally +7 at least, so chances of getting a +5 and +2 are decent.