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    Community Member The10man's Avatar
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    I am following a build on my TR and it is a little dated (built for no ML tomes) so I have to adjust the skill points a little giving here an there due to not as many skill points due to no level 1 +3 int tome. The build is a trap monkey dps build that fits a need in my lineup. (When I TRed my trapsmith I wanted to still have one but wanted better survivability and DPS) The final stats on the original build are:
    UMD: 23 ranks +4 GH +2 luck +5 cha +6 cha skills = 40 no fail Reconstruct scroll
    Intimidate: 23 ranks +4 GH +2 luck +5 cha +6 cha skills +15 item = 55
    Open Locks: 4 ranks +15 item +7 tool +4GH +2 luck +10 dex = 42 +d20
    Search: 20 ranks +15 item +4 GH +2 luck +5 int = 46
    Disable Devices: 19 ranks +15 item +4GH +2 luck +5 int = 45 +d20
    Jump: 0 ranks +4 Acrobat +9 str +1 str skills +30 Morah's Belt/Arcane = 44
    Tumble: 16 ranks +4 Acrobat +10 dex +4GH +2 luck +2 Rog tumble = 38
    Haggle: 9 ranks +15 item +5 cha +6 cha skills +4GH +2 luck = 41
    Diplomacy: 23 ranks +10 item +5 cha +6 cha skills +4GH +2 luck = 50
    Hide: 13 ranks +15 item +10 dex +4GH +2 luck = 44
    Move Silently: 13 ranks +15 item +10 dex +4GH +2 luck = 44
    Concentration: 0 ranks +8-15 con +15 item +5 con skills +4GH +2 luck = 34-41
    Spot: 0 ranks +15 item +6 wis +4GH +2 luck = 27

    I obviously can't reach all of these (although should be close to most as this is a TR so 34 point instead of 32) What I don't know is why 44 in hide and MS? Do they help with sneak attacks passively? I know I have to give somewhere and I am getting into the decision area of where to cut. Any help is appreciated. The original build if you need more info is: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=194791
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    sneaking is for people that want to do quests with killing little to no monsters without any detection it does help get sneak attack but only for the first hit because after that you will be detected by the monster you attacked
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    Quote Originally Posted by The10man View Post
    Hide: 13 ranks +15 item +10 dex +4GH +2 luck = 44
    Move Silently: 13 ranks +15 item +10 dex +4GH +2 luck = 44
    If you are short on skill points, I think you can safely dump Move Silently and Hide.

    If you have some spare skill points after dumping Hide and MS, use them for Search and Disable Device.

    After recent changes to how skills work, some prefer Bluff to Diplomacy.
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    I do backpack rides though claw almost every day and had been testing to see how low my skills in Hide and MS can get and still not be seen in there and with a 54 I was seen but with a 55 it was a smooth ride to complete. I haven't been testing trap DC's, the rolls make it to much of a varriable. I dont remeber seeing if you calculated +5 picks into your OL or DD. Other adjustments you might want to make is the epic spyglass for a +20 Search and spot and/or the epic ravens sight additional stacking +3, also the Philarian mirror cloak for a stacking +5 to Hide and MS. As far as bluff goes I have had no issues with a 35 bluff so you could keep that lower. I would suggest the epic utlity vest but your WF, would this build work with Horc? Another thing that I'm sure you have thought of is that trap boxes dont move and you could possibly drop spot if you know the boxes.

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