NInja Spy Kinda Sucks

[MarlafoxLeInfamous]

So i TRed my bard and became monk. I really really like dark side. Compared to the Light side of the monk the Ninja spy prestige enhancment blows. there are only 2 levels of Ninja Spy compare Shintao 3. Shintao monks get DR bypass and 2 abilities every time u take it + ac and other things when you fight evil.

Ninja spy 1 gives you the use of Short swords sneak attack damage and cool invis + 25% incomporeal Buff (invis portion doesnt seem to work), I like everything about Ninja spy 1 except the use of short swords. Have you ever seen a monk use them? Why should you. Monks can't use Stunning Fist or ToD while using Short swords, two very important skills. I would like to ask if you could make it so it reduces the Cool down of Dark monk abilities (winter's touch, all consuming flame, pious soul, static charge, and ToD) by 2 seconds and reduce the ki cost of the spell dmg amps by 2 and ToD by 3.

Ninja spy 2 gives use improved critical short sword more sneak attack damage and dance of the water strider (walk on water). To be honest i only took ninja spy 2 for the sneak attack damage because i'm a half elf monk with rogue feat. Outside of the sneak attack damage this pretty much a waste of 2 points because there isn't many places where water strider gives you the edge ( the crucible and only one part in that) It doesn't work everywhere i can't use it to walk on water in the Vale or most places. So maybe do like you did with Ninja spy one. When you break the walking on water portion of the ability you gain immunity to slippery surfaces for one minute. Or do away with Dance and replace wit with a another survival type skill that absorbs 20% negative damage and 5 stat or level reducing spells and have it wear off when the 5 spells are absorbed or one minute has passsed. And also replace short sword part with another level of cool down reduction by 2 ki costs of spell damage amps by 2 and ToD by 3

Ninja Spy 3 would be nice to have as well. for the ability we could have a Hadoken type move (recolored black fire ball) that does a decent amount of negative damage on like a 15 or 30 sec Cool down. (possibly code it so its not a spell, not sure if that is possible though. I just want to be able to use my madstone boots with it.), Or just add the negative spell absorbition to this tier of ninja spy. Some more sneak attack damage (or if adding more would be to much sneak attack for monk maybe stacking + 5 to hit while sneak attacking.) and reduce the Cool down of Spell damage amps and ToD by 1, Ki costs of spell amps by 1 and the ki cost of ToD by 4.

Also ToD and Spell amp Abilities should not share the same Cool Down. Make Dark monks more group friendly by allowing them to help the casters. Shintao Monks can buff their party why can't Dark monk's help out in some way.

[DevHead]

Dark monks are meant to kill, not buff.

Comparing light and dark when the third tier of dark isn't even out is completely pointless.

Yes, no one uses shortswords, but there are still lots of dark monks. Why? ToD with the trip dark finisher, Shadow Fade, and SA damage. Those three alone make it worth it.

[Doganpc]

In the immortal words of many before me... You're doing it wrong.

Dogan
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[MsEricka]

In the immortal words of many before me... You're doing it wrong.

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[Ystradmynach]

Ninja Spy 3 would be nice to have as well. for the ability we could have a Hadoken type move (recolored black fire ball) that does a decent amount of negative damage on like a 15 or 30 sec Cool down.

Hadoken type moves should be reserved for when they introduce the Witchalok class.

[Feithlin]

Shortswords are not good dps weapons compared to wraps but can be occasionnaly useful. Though less since they changed banish and smiting. I'm far from an expert on monks, since my only one is only level 12 atm, but I can see at least one use of them: it's way easier to get boss beaters shortswords than wraps. You could use the ss to beat and accumulate ki, then switch to wraps to launch ToD. Not ideal, but will allow me to contribute more to raids while waiting to get the ToD (the raid, not the attack ) ring.

[Carpone]

Ninja spy 1 gives you the use of Short swords sneak attack damage and cool invis + 25% incomporeal Buff (invis portion doesnt seem to work)

The invisibility lasts up to 1 minute, or until you attack something. The incorporeal portion of the buff lasts 60 seconds.

Outside of the sneak attack damage this pretty much a waste of 2 points because there isn't many places where water strider gives you the edge ( the crucible and only one part in that) It doesn't work everywhere i can't use it to walk on water in the Vale or most places.

You can solo ice in Abbot. Useful if like me, you tend to only bring 6 people.

Ninja Spy 3 would be nice to have as well.

It's coming. The devs wanted things to settle with the ToD changes first.